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    Quote Originally Posted by SA Friday View Post
    Well, what do all of these people have in common? hmmmmmmm?
    Marriage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky View Post
    While I don't disagree on people being prescribed meds when they don't need them. Try living with someone truly bipolar. On meds you have a mother who volunteers at the kids school, school functions, cooks and cleans and what not. Off meds you get suicidal, drinking binges, mentally and physically abusive. it truly is horrible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky View Post
    While I don't disagree on people being prescribed meds when they don't need them. Try living with someone truly bipolar. On meds you have a mother who volunteers at the kids school, school functions, cooks and cleans and what not. Off meds you get suicidal, drinking binges, mentally and physically abusive. it truly is horrible.
    ex-wife numbah 2! luckily we didn't have any children, but she was batshit when she was off meds.
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    A lot of people seem think a diagnosis for "bi-polar" is an excuse to act horrible whenever they feel like it and neglect their responsibilities. If you're stuck in a relationship with someone like that it can be a real horrorshow. First thing that needs to be done is to cut them off from access to the bank accounts used for bills and savings, because they'll think nothing of blowing it all on crap for themselves. Second thing is to give them a short list of very simple, basic, common sense rules any decent person should already know how to follow, and let them know those are instant dealbreakers. Third thing is to seriously consider your options . . . and divorce is actually one of the best options if the other person refuses to control their behavior. I've dealt with mentally ill people many times, and usually they know when they're crossing a line and doing something wrong, but they figure they'll just do it anyway and blame their "disease" so they won't be held responsible for their actions. Someone like that, you can't count on them and you can never completely trust them.

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    when fixing problems is a major business, you cannot have enough problems.
    if you run out of problems, invent new ones.

    Big Pharma is teaching our correctional industry all of its tricks.

    I got by the 3 rules
    If its bleeding stitch it.
    if its broken, splint it
    if none of the above applies, man the f...-up and stop crying

    if you are so mentally broken you need a pile of pills to not be destructive, perhaps you need constant supervision.
    We have become a society of big business is people avoiding personal responsibility and being 'broken' to the point we will take a pill "in certain cases, Sudden death may occur..."
    Seriously?... your don't have a rash on your ass anymore, but your family is now without a parent.

    "Crap, Doc, is this rash infectious?", "Will it kill me?", "Is it going away on its own?"
    I'm sure as heck NOT taking a pill that may cause hives, sleepiness, sleeplessness, nervousness, Suicidal thoughts, vomiting, headaches, ANOTHER rash, hives, shakes, jitters, diabetes, heart damage, kidney damage, live damage, amnesia, blindness, discolored urine, swelling, 'sudden and uncontrollable bowel movements', compulsive behavior, rectal leakage, urinary leakage, rectal bleeding, or birth defects...

    all for a rash that is going to clear up in a few weeks because the wife changed fabric softeners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byte Stryke View Post
    when fixing problems is a major business, you cannot have enough problems.
    if you run out of problems, invent new ones.

    Big Pharma is teaching our correctional industry all of its tricks.

    I got by the 3 rules
    If its bleeding stitch it.
    if its broken, splint it
    if none of the above applies, man the f...-up and stop crying

    if you are so mentally broken you need a pile of pills to not be destructive, perhaps you need constant supervision.
    We have become a society of big business is people avoiding personal responsibility and being 'broken' to the point we will take a pill "in certain cases, Sudden death may occur..."
    Seriously?... your don't have a rash on your ass anymore, but your family is now without a parent.

    "Crap, Doc, is this rash infectious?", "Will it kill me?", "Is it going away on its own?"
    I'm sure as heck NOT taking a pill that may cause hives, sleepiness, sleeplessness, nervousness, Suicidal thoughts, vomiting, headaches, ANOTHER rash, hives, shakes, jitters, diabetes, heart damage, kidney damage, live damage, amnesia, blindness, discolored urine, swelling, 'sudden and uncontrollable bowel movements', compulsive behavior, rectal leakage, urinary leakage, rectal bleeding, or birth defects...

    all for a rash that is going to clear up in a few weeks because the wife changed fabric softeners.
    MEGA Recognition for this^^
    You tell a doc the side effects don't offset the Up side of the med and they look at you with this weird HUH? THEN say. WELL those effects are a worse case scenario.

    I told the nurse staff when they asked "How you feeling after your surgery"
    Replied ,you know i'm kind of wired . 2 hrs later same ?? Now i say you know i'm having mild hallucinations , No reply. 6 hrs later same back n forth
    36 hrs later They actually realized me being up for the last 36 and staring in to space at unknown objects and overall weirdness was in fact a reality THEN THEY TOOK ACTION. 36 HOURS


    Look some folks cannot function w/out a regimentation of pharma's and they truly need them to deal with the simple things in life on a daily basis. No argument

    HOWEVER some folks, well...............they game the system

    The other group.........They will never be able to exist with someone as the simple thought of Dialogue and Therapy is foreign, something they would never give in to because They don't need someone else telling them how to live their life!
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    Quote Originally Posted by hunterhawk View Post
    Lets put it this way man.. My kid is only drinking bottled water haha
    What do you think PepsiCo is adding to your Aquafina?

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    Nothing has changed.. in the 50s-60s it was alcohol for the stay at home mom, then through the 70s and 80s it was Valium.. 90s-00s? What's the new drug? Life is getting more hectic, I read an article in Wired recently that said that we process more information in a year at work now than we did in an entire lifespan just 20 years ago. The ladies around the pool are probably all playing the game of staying ahead of the Joneses rather than being happy with themselves. After watching a few hours of reality TV you can surmise that life in general is pretty boring for a lot of people thus they get into other peoples gossip and business and they start watching "reality" TV to make up for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clint45 View Post
    A lot of people seem think a diagnosis for "bi-polar" is an excuse to act horrible whenever they feel like it and neglect their responsibilities. If you're stuck in a relationship with someone like that it can be a real horrorshow. First thing that needs to be done is to cut them off from access to the bank accounts used for bills and savings, because they'll think nothing of blowing it all on crap for themselves. Second thing is to give them a short list of very simple, basic, common sense rules any decent person should already know how to follow, and let them know those are instant dealbreakers. Third thing is to seriously consider your options . . . and divorce is actually one of the best options if the other person refuses to control their behavior. I've dealt with mentally ill people many times, and usually they know when they're crossing a line and doing something wrong, but they figure they'll just do it anyway and blame their "disease" so they won't be held responsible for their actions. Someone like that, you can't count on them and you can never completely trust them.
    The "person" you're describing here sounds like a mis-diagnosed, plain old narcissist. Try your solutions with someone who is actually bi-polar, un-medicated and refuses to see any fault in themselves.

    My guess is that most people that talk about mental disease have no fucking idea what it is really like.
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    although there are obviously people that are bipolar, and add, and all of that, the over diagnosis of these ailments is insane. i know someone who is just mean. period. rude, verbally abusive. prideful. and of course she just got diagnosed bipolar. i work in health care and know bipolar, and shes not bipolar. same with kids with add. kids never had a problem 40-50 years ago, now all of the sudden every other kid is add and needs meds? they probably need a firm hand and maybe a belt. society wants to label everything, understand everything and get the quick fix for everything. so we diagnose anyhting and everything and give them meds instead of slapping them upside the head and telling them to shape up.

    don't even get me started on pain meds. you don't even want to know where that whole fiasco has gone.

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