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    lot of purse swinging and dead horse beating going on around here .....
    oh yeah






    TESTICLES ...... that is all .




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    you guys should meet and roe sham bo to see who is the the baddest or you could have a dance off ?

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    Don't know how to imbed this but....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcIj...e_gdata_player

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    Light a fire for a man, and he'll be warm for a day, light a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life...

    Discussion is an exchange of intelligence. Argument is an exchange of
    ignorance. Ever found a liberal that you can have a discussion with?

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    Awww, did I hurt someone's feelings? Does owning a training company automatically require me to bow down? F*CK NO. I've owned a company, it sucks. There are lots of people who own "training" companies who don't know shit (the original topic of this thread if I'm not mistaken). You think I'm an ass for how I treat people who are knowingly risking the safety of their students to make a few bucks...then get out of this thread. I know who NC is on M4C and he has a good rapport based upon his use of common sense and professionalism, yet to be seen here and will be responded to in similar fashion if it does show up. You say you aren't defending someone yet you do, and then say they are "in theory" qualified to teach something out of their scope. Let me know when "in theory" holds up in court when someone is seriously hurt or killed due to negligence on a range. Until then, there are too many people on here chiming in who have no f*cking clue what is being discussed nor the and are supporting severe discredit to the entire shooting community. If you feel comfortable with their inexperience in that subject, then by all means take the class and roll the dice. I, and many others who do this for a living, refuse to support this sort of jackassery. The Applied CQB Concepts (ACC) course is designed to introduce capable shooters to beginner, intermediate and advanced CQB concepts..."in only 3 days?!? Really? Anyone who can teach "advanced CQB concepts" in only 3 days must be a god among mortals...or a complete fraud.
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    Did I accidentally log into arfcom??? WTF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hghclsswhitetrsh View Post
    Did I accidentally log into arfcom??? WTF.
    Been a moth to a flame here. Not sure WTF this hasn't been shut down.
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    You guys have feelings? Hmmm.
    Look,this is really simple. Do you have to have done something to do it? No, of course not, we all start somewhere. Do you have to have done something in order to teach it? Yes, otherwise you are just spouting some shit you heard.
    Bad information can have deadly consequences. Ask the guys here that do CQB for a living, bad info and practices will get you killed.
    For the rest of us let's try to remember that sticking feathers up your butt doesn't make you a chicken.
    I think that was the point of the original video.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dan512 View Post
    Bad information can have deadly consequences. Ask the guys here that do CQB for a living, bad info and practices will get you killed.
    They are being told this by "the guys who do this for a living." Money seems to trump common sense among some of the instructors on this forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coloccw View Post
    Awww, did I hurt someone's feelings?


    Does owning a training company automatically require me to bow down? F*CK NO.
    Being professional in your actions with others doesnt mean you have to "bow down" to anyone.


    You think I'm an ass for how I treat people who are knowingly risking the safety of their students to make a few bucks
    Let's see; you decide to make an ass out of yourself in some lame attempt to discredit my expereince and you cite safety concerns with a class that you've never taken part in, seen video of, etc.

    ...then get out of this thread.
    Sorry sunshine. I'm content to stay here and watch you continue to make an ass of yourself. And you're doing an outstanding job at it.

    I know who NC is on M4C and he has a good rapport based upon his use of common sense and professionalism, yet to be seen here and will be responded to in similar fashion if it does show up.
    You have 0 room to be talking to anyone about professionalism.

    You say you aren't defending someone yet you do
    Negative Ghostrider. Your initial claim was that I was here solely to bail Kelly out which was incorrect. I never said that I wouldnt defend him, or anyone else, against some baseless claim.

    and then say they are "in theory" qualified to teach something out of their scope. Let me know when "in theory" holds up in court when someone is seriously hurt or killed due to negligence on a range.


    Once again, I responded to your question about what it takes to teach people in a LE setting. Want to teach OC use; get a recognized OC instructor certificate. Want to teach driving, get a recognized driver instructor certificate. Want to teach firearms; wait for it......... get a recognized firearms trainer certificate. Negliegence on the range/in the house can occur regardless of the level of expereince that the instructor has. Negligence is limited by sticking to strict, well-vetted and established safety SOPs that are a part of the lesson plan that the course is being taught from.

    I, and many others who do this for a living, refuse to support this sort of jackassery.
    Afraid its going to impact your business?

    The Applied CQB Concepts (ACC) course is designed to introduce capable shooters to beginner, intermediate and advanced CQB concepts..."in only 3 days?!? Really? Anyone who can teach "advanced CQB concepts" in only 3 days must be a god among mortals...or a complete fraud.
    Or someone who is simply using marketing to get people in the door. We all know that no one wants to do a "basic" class, so the more business-inclined person will put an intermediate or advanced descriptor in there even when the material being covered is still basic. Business 101, but again you already knew that.

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