My wet blanket for Memorial Day.

[DD977GM2]

I think you missed the entire purpose of Memorial Day and even 4th of July. YMMV

[DD977GM2]

There is still good in this country, it is a far cry better then 99% of the rest of the world.

[Great-Kazoo]

Yeah, you read that wrong.

I didn't burn the flag in protest, I properly disposed of a flag no longer fit to fly.


I don't think your analogy fits. A more apt one would be that you had a fight with your wife because she started screwing other people and joined a death cult so you hid your daughter from her for her own protection.

Oh it fits. You're disappointed with a relative and the direction OUR Country has taken, understandably. SO your option to "dispose" of the Flag your relative gave you was in your mind the Only Option to show your disgust. Nope the analogy fits.
I'm pisssed at the wife so i take out my frustration on something my wife gave us, our child. Yep, still fits.

Perhaps your inability to come to terms with issues have are the problem.

IF you think you have the market cornered on Dislike / disgust / anger where Our Country is heading great "Dispose" of all the flags you want. Myself and others (hopefully) act by getting involved with potential candidates for office. Talk to those who don't or unwilling to have a grasp of reality.

In the late 60's i as many others did, advocated the removal of the .gov as it stood. NEVER ONCE DID I, "DISPOSE" OF AN AMERICAN FLAG. NEVER

A retired cop mistook my brother for a bad guy and took his life. 1 year later...............................Still no lashing out at LE's because of the actions of one.

Now continue to justify you "disposal" Fortunately that is your / our right, even under this administration.

[Great-Kazoo]

There is still good in this country, it is a far cry better then 99% of the rest of the world.

SHH lets keep that a secret. Any middle eastern and some asian country's his admission on any public forum would have serious repercussions. For him.

[Great-Kazoo]

The first sentence of your OP says it all.

So I was talking to one of my neighbors who noticed that I didn't have my flag flying this Memorial Day ... I changed the subject.

You inform the electronic world of your actions yet didn't have the spine to tell your neighbor what you did???

A TRUE PATRIOT Stands his grounds no matter the consequences. Looks like your line in the sand is as flexible as our CIC's.

But dispose away, and keep changing the subject.

[Zundfolge]

What's that saying, i'm sure some of us remember?


“My country; and my country is the great American Republic. My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right.”

Yes, and Gen. Schurz got to say that AFTER being victorious in a civil war. A civil where the other side was a minority that simply wanted to leave, not stay and shove Marxism down our throats.

I'm not saying American can't be great again, but I just don't see it happening without a lot of unpleasantness and that unpleasantness will make the likelihood of it being "set right" even less.

Maybe I've been reading too much Ann Barnhardt lately, but in recent years I've come to see that the real problem with America isn't the corruption of its institutions, that is merely a symptom of the deeper corruption of its people. Many of us here have shielded ourselves from the truly reprehensible people that Americans have become, one way we do that is to shroud ourselves in the traditions and patriotism of our forefathers. No group of Americans does this more than those that have served in the armed forces. And it is those, arguably our best and brightest, that have suffered and sacrificed for a nation of people that simply do not deserve their sacrifice.

I ain't done fighting, but I've resigned myself to the fact that what I fight for may very well end up being a new Republic ... hopefully located roughly where the old one was.


America is an idea, not a nation. I still believe in the superiority of that idea, I just think most Americans are more concerned about getting their check (or more to the point, making sure rich white capitalists don't get theirs) and who's going to win American Idol or the Superbowl. More interested in Caeser's panem et circenses.


Anyway, most days I'm able to shove all this thinking aside and get on with the daily business of life ... but Memorial Day is for me a reminder of what we've lost.

The first sentence of your OP says it all.

So I was talking to one of my neighbors who noticed that I didn't have my flag flying this Memorial Day ... I changed the subject.

You inform the electronic world of your actions yet didn't have the spine to tell your neighbor what you did???

A TRUE PATRIOT Stands his grounds no matter the consequences. Looks like your line in the sand is as flexible as our CIC's.

But dispose away, and keep changing the subject.

I can see your point, but a polite neighbor doesn't lay a heavy trip on someone just making polite conversation.

But hey, I guess I'm not as pious as you Jim ... weren't you blocking me anyway?

[Birddog1911]

snip...the problem is that I no longer see those sacrifices as being "to preserve the liberty and way of life we enjoy here in America" because I don't believe they have (they may have been intended to, but that's just not how things have turned out).

snip...

I can't help but take exception to this. Who are you to say what they sacrificed their lives for?

[tmleadr03]

what he said is exactly what melvin said to me before he was banned. basically "our sacrifice meant nothing, we just thought it did" WTF?

This is not a black and white topic. We all joined for our own reasons. I wanted to serve this country, that's why I went and stood on the yellow foot prints. My service was to keep this country safe. To protect our way of life.


I have trouble seeing how our still being in Afghanistan is protecting our way of life.


I have trouble seeing how our attack on Iraq protected our way of life.


10 years later and what have we won for our freedoms over there? Our men are dying over there. Why? It for damn sure doesn't make us any safer.

But that is clearly not an issue with the men and women in the military, but with the political machine who controls them.

[Great-Kazoo]

I can see your point, but a polite neighbor doesn't lay a heavy trip on someone just making polite conversation.

But hey, I guess I'm not as pious as you Jim ... weren't you blocking me anyway?

PIOUS?? No son i have convictions and beliefs. Those who know me(not from posting) but actually met , friends, family and NEIGHBORS . They all know where i stand, my OPINION and my BELIEFS.
Unlike you, i have the back bone to tell my neighbor why i did what i did. Not CHANGE THE SUBJECT. THAT lacks conviction.

This is not a black and white topic. We all joined for our own reasons. I wanted to serve this country, that's why I went and stood on the yellow foot prints. My service was to keep this country safe. To protect our way of life.


I have trouble seeing how our still being in Afghanistan is protecting our way of life.


I have trouble seeing how our attack on Iraq protected our way of life.


10 years later and what have we won for our freedoms over there? Our men are dying over there. Why? It for damn sure doesn't make us any safer.

But that is clearly not an issue with the men and women in the military, but with the political machine who controls them.

ABSOLUTELY I joined even though i disagreed with the .gov policy's . It was either join or be drafted.

Iraq & Afghanistan?? It's lost it's focus and IMHO. We should have regime changed Saudi Arabia. Those were the ones who masterminded the 9/11 attacks.
HOWEVER those are all topics for other discussions.

[Byte Stryke]

This is not a black and white topic. We all joined for our own reasons. I wanted to serve this country, that's why I went and stood on the yellow foot prints. My service was to keep this country safe. To protect our way of life.


I have trouble seeing how our still being in Afghanistan is protecting our way of life.


I have trouble seeing how our attack on Iraq protected our way of life.


10 years later and what have we won for our freedoms over there? Our men are dying over there. Why? It for damn sure doesn't make us any safer.

But that is clearly not an issue with the men and women in the military, but with the political machine who controls them.

agree

and while I do not (personally) agree with Zund's decision to burn the flag... I'll fight ya for it.