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    Default Gun Counter ignorance is not just in the gun store. Name some other examples.

    I know a lot of us are passionate about one thing or another. Most here have a passion for firearms.
    This makes it difficult when you find someone spewing ignorance at the gun counter frustrating.

    But, it isn't just the gun counter. It happens in almost all sales areas.

    I work in the trailer/truck industry. I see/hear daily that auto dealers are telling folks they can tow things with their small SUV's that shouldn't be attempted even with a 1 ton dually.
    Ok, maybe a little bit of an stretch, but not by a lot.

    Auto sales, electronics, camper sales, hot tubs.... what are your experiences?

    How many of you have found out after the sale that your salesman was full of it?
    I say lets all remove the warning labels and let nature take its course.

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    Never listen to salesmen! I have always done all my own research. I buy cars from a private dealer and most everything else on the internet. I do go to ACE, Lowes and a few local gunshops, but not to "shop". So really never happened to me.
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    Arg... instrument sales and people put in charge of purchasing that know NOTHING about them!!!

    There is a REASON (manufacturing quality, testing, metal lurgy, resonance nodes, etc) trumpet A is only $300 and trumpet B is $3K. Please, do yourself a favor and get B... Or just give me the money and I'll take care of it.

    Then you hear the "Well, player X would sound the same on horn A vs B"....

    Well, duh you friggin' moron, player X has X number of years of performing and is competent to produce. However, I can guarantee you that player X is working his behind off trying to get a decent sound out of horn A, while when he uses horn B, it's a friggin Maybach in comparison!

    HA
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBear View Post
    Arg... instrument sales and people put in charge of purchasing that know NOTHING about them!!!

    There is a REASON (manufacturing quality, testing, metal lurgy, resonance nodes, etc) trumpet A is only $300 and trumpet B is $3K. Please, do yourself a favor and get B... Or just give me the money and I'll take care of it.

    Then you hear the "Well, player X would sound the same on horn A vs B"....

    Well, duh you friggin' moron, player X has X number of years of performing and is competent to produce. However, I can guarantee you that player X is working his behind off trying to get a decent sound out of horn A, while when he uses horn B, it's a friggin Maybach in comparison!

    HA
    THIS... String instruments are even harder because as they get up there in price, the qualities that separate a $45k from a $50k instrument may be so small that the average person doesn't even notice.

    It takes a pretty experienced player to appreciate the difference in the distance between the strings, the slope of the fingerboard, the strings action height, and then how each of those work for/against each other. Most times, you can change some of them by chainging a little part here or there, but then the instrument might sound different, and thusly, the value drops. Your $40k instrument might now be only worth $25k because you made a change 5 years ago.

    Good luck!
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    Default Gun Counter ignorance is not just in the gun store. Name some other examples.

    If I want a good laugh I ether stump the apple geeks or go into best guy's computer section and wait for the bs to start flying.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazin View Post
    If I want a good laugh I ether stump the apple geeks or go into best guy's computer section and wait for the bs to start flying.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hound View Post
    One word "MicroCenter"... But they are way better than in California where the word is "Fry's".
    My biggest gripe is listening to hound!!! blahahahahahaha macs suck!

    SATA 10k rpm drives vs SSD.
    IBM vs SUN
    HP vs Dell
    Ford vs chevy
    Dodge vs everything else (for a farm truck)

    And the worst one i've ever had to witness was International vs Case vs John Deere when all 3 reps where at my uncles farm right before harvest.
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    I routinely have to link people to info on calculation macronutrient needs, utilizing compound exercises, and why taking a pre-workout, post-workout, boosters, and two different kinds of protein is pointless.

    Me: "You can't even squat your own bodyweight. How exactly do you plan on having the strength to move sufficient weight to build yourself properly?"
    Idiot: "Well, Joe told me I should be doing 3 sets of 12 to failure. I've been doing lots of leg press."
    *Blood pressure rises*
    Me: "You're wasting your time doing isolation exercises. I can personally guarantee you're going to plateau immediately, get frustrated, then give up. You need to build a strength base; you're putting the cart before the horse."
    Idiot: "Yeah, but I read in Arnold Schwarzenegger's book that he used to do the same routine I'm doing. He said it's what got him so big."
    Me: "Yes, and this was after Arnold had competed in powerlifting and Olympic-style weightlifting. He was squatting well over 600 pounds and deadlifted 800+. He had already built himself properly long before he was a bodybuilder. Furthermore, that routine and style of training was contingent on him running cycles year-round."
    Idiot: "Well, I just wanna get jacked for summer."
    Me: "You should understand that you'll be lucky to gain 10 pounds of LBM this year, assuming you stay consistent."
    Idiot: "But Joe gained 30 pounds of PURE MUSCLE since January."
    Me: "He may have gained 30 pounds, but it was not all lean mass, I assure you. It is physiologically impossible, even if he was juiced to the gills."
    Idiot: "Well, I don't know if I'm going to be able to eat every hour."
    Me: "Ummmm...don't?"
    Idiot: "But Joe told me I have to eat every hour to get JACKED FIBRAZ."
    Me: "Right. Listen, I'm going to give you some links that you should check out. Gotta go."

    Quote Originally Posted by Mazin View Post
    If I want a good laugh I ether stump the apple geeks or go into best guy's computer section and wait for the bs to start flying.
    This.
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    Default Gun Counter ignorance is not just in the gun store. Name some other examples.

    I just about pulled a guy at the local parts store across the counter and beat him one day. I didn't ask for your lame ass diagnosis of my vehicle. You're barely qualified to tie your own shows and struggle to look up the correct parts for my vehicle in the computer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ray1970 View Post
    I just about pulled a guy at the local parts store across the counter and beat him one day. I didn't ask for your lame ass diagnosis of my vehicle. You're barely qualified to tie your own shows and struggle to look up the correct parts for my vehicle in the computer.

    So violent Ray, got some stress you need to unload?

    I have been there, I know my Jeep like the back of my hand and get guys telling me what is wrong or why it is not working.
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