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    Quote Originally Posted by Skully View Post
    The lawsuit originally all started because of his name's mention in Chris's book right? About a meeting in a bar or something and he was all a super pansy after starting some shit with Chris who called him out?
    Yep. Ventura denies it, but Kyle claimed to have laid him out for talking trash and saying he was a SEAL, when in reality, Ventura was never assigned to any SEAL unit, he was UDT, which back then was a separate thing.
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    The incident actually went as follows: Kyle and various members of his team were at a local bar toasting for a memorial to a fallen brother in arms. Ventura was there and was audibly denouncing the actions of the armed forces. Kyle said he approached him and asked him to save it for another time, as there was a widow and various family members present. Kyle and Ventura exchanged words, with Ventura continuing to make a point of the illegitimacy of US foreign policy in the war, then allegedly told Kyle, "You guys deserved to lose a few."

    Kyle then allegedly laid him out with a single punch. Law enforcement was also in the vicinity, and Kyle asserted that he then left the scene. This was all discussed in HIS appearance on the Opie & Anthony show in his own words.



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    IIRC, in Kyle's book, he didn't mention Ventura by name. He gave some nickname for him instead of saying "I punched out Jesse Ventura". Jesse's name was already in the mud before Chris Kyle wrote his book. If you really were a SEAL, you would have the common decency to not try to sue a fellow SEAL's family. Which is one of the many reasons nobody believes that he was a SEAL.
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    If he was a SEAL what was this BUD/S Class number? Unless he DOR'ed on his first day someone will remember him .. and if he did DOR on the first day ... he was never a SEAL anyways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clublights View Post
    If he was a SEAL what was this BUD/S Class number? Unless he DOR'ed on his first day someone will remember him .. and if he did DOR on the first day ... he was never a SEAL anyways.
    "Ventura served in the United States Navy from December 1, 1969, to September 10, 1975, during the Vietnam War era. He graduated in BUD/S class 58 in December 1970[12] and was part of Underwater Demolition Team 12[4][13]"

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    Excellent read:
    Jesse "The Great Pretender" Ventura

    So there it is. Does Jesse trade on the valor of others when he pretends to have been a seal? He styles himself an honest, uncomplicated man: what you see is what you get. He should set the record straight. Hell, nothing to be ashamed of about having been a frog. UDTs have a noble tradition. When Jesse was a frog, they jumped out of airplanes, locked out of submarines, and blew shit up. But frogs didn’t often fight and die like seals did in Nam. 34:1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZERO THEORY View Post
    "Ventura served in the United States Navy from December 1, 1969, to September 10, 1975, during the Vietnam War era. He graduated in BUD/S class 58 in December 1970[12] and was part of Underwater Demolition Team 12[4][13]"
    Technically yes, technically no. Back then UDT had not yet merged with the SEALs and usually saw less combat and took fewer casualties. Before 1983 (when UDT and SEALs both became one) UDT was not the same as the SEALs and did not wear the SEAL Trident. Further, Ventura never served in Vietnam, no combat, no deployment. He doesn't rate by comparison to Kyle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    Technically yes, technically no. Back then UDT had not yet merged with the SEALs and usually saw less combat and took fewer casualties. Before 1983 (when UDT and SEALs both became one) UDT was not the same as the SEALs and did not wear the SEAL Trident. Further, Ventura never served in Vietnam, no combat, no deployment. He doesn't rate by comparison to Kyle.
    No, absolutely not. He was stationed in the Philippines, I believe. What makes it even more disgusting is his pseudo-Hemingway quote about "you haven't hunted until you've hunted man" when he never did anything of the sort.

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    So a jury decided to give Jesse 1.8 million.

    http://news.yahoo.com/jury-awards-ve...182537224.html

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    I have a hard time believing that if the defense witnesses couldn't get their story straight enough to convince even half of the jury, let alone only 2 of them. Don't know Kyle, don't know Ventura...but I would be willing to lean towards that this incident didn't actually happen. Or at the very least it didn't happen the way either side said it did.
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