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    My only current dilemma, based on the advice of my trust attorney, the one and only NFATrustGuy, is deciding how many will transfer into my trust.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brutal View Post
    My only current dilemma, based on the advice of my trust attorney, the one and only NFATrustGuy, is deciding how many will transfer into my trust.

    I asked the same questions of the same attorney and was advised that there would be no reason not to transfer all of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kidicarus13 View Post
    I asked the same questions of the same attorney and was advised that there would be no reason not to transfer all of them.
    Agree.

    I was purposely vague and did not mean to imply said attorney was anything but crystal clear on that point. I will quite possibly sell some currently in my possession prior to midnight June 30 and just need to have the form ready to sign.

    Any removable baseplate mag and/or >15 rd mag in my possession June 30 will go into the trust. I'm also acquiring an AK soon and have mags yet to be purchased.

    I suppose I could have one transfer form for the pistol mags that aren't going to vary, and make another one for all others.

    That's all I'm willing to say on a public internets forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jim View Post
    Fuck that. You carry receipts or BOS for your guns too? ? ?
    Yes. I do as well, all except for one [low capacity pistol] receipt that I cannot find. By "carry" these are scanned to pdf and take up virtually no space on iPhone / iPad.
    So in my mind the question is are you buying magazines or are you collecting receipts - the manner of which allows one to forever own something by these laws?

    If the burden of proof for time of possession is on the prosecution, IMHO, this doubles down on making their job difficult.
    "Here you are officer / prosecuting attorney / detective! And feel free to lose it - I have many electronic copies both at home and remote. Enjoy!"


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffrey Lebowski View Post
    Yes. I do as well, all except for one [low capacity pistol] receipt that I cannot find. By "carry" these are scanned to pdf and take up virtually no space on iPhone / iPad.
    So in my mind the question is are you buying magazines or are you collecting receipts - the manner of which allows one to forever own something by these laws?

    If the burden of proof for time of possession is on the prosecution, IMHO, this doubles down on making their job difficult.
    "Here you are officer / prosecuting attorney / detective! And feel free to lose it - I have many electronic copies both at home and remote. Enjoy!"


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    1) Can mags be legally transferred into a trust after June 30th?
    2) I plan to just post pictures of everything I have in the picture thread and have my defense attorney subpoena every member of this site to the trial.
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    I just finished a Citizen's Police Academy with our 'local' police department last night. Eight Tuesday nights (except the one Saturday range day) learning a small portion of what our police department does, how they manage resources, their equipment, etc. I am extremely impressed with the MPD, their personnel, equipment, tactics, training and overal attitude.

    During this time the rash of gun bills came up as discussion topics more than once. The responses given from the chief on down are in line with what the vast majority of us believe on a personal level and the professional responses were basically that these laws are so poorly written and contradictory that there is no way to enforce them.

    Hopefully the sheriff's lawsuit, actions taken by the NRA and others after July 1, recall of Morse, challenges that will come from some poor individual victim of these idiotic laws, mid-term elections, will have the effect of repealing these laws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    1) Can mags be legally transferred into a trust after June 30th?
    2) I plan to just post pictures of everything I have in the picture thread and have my defense attorney subpoena every member of this site to the trial.
    Why not? you own then do what ever you want as long as they are "in your possession" My question (AGAIN) is who knows what you own, are in possession etc etc?? UNLESS the mags have a post 6/30 date stamp / ID on them they were always in your possession. ALWAYS in your family's Possession. EVERY firearm within my reach is also owned by my spouse, daughter and numerous other family members.
    Take me to court and prove, Beyond a Reasonable Doubt, they were not.

    Like a firearm purchased ( 4473 purchase) before or after 7/1 You can transfer them LEGALLY as a "Gift" to your trust. This enables anyone you include in the trust, as owners until that ownership / possession is rescinded.

    The less you post on line, the less Can and Will be Used against you In a Court of Law.

    In laymen's term's SHUT UP, BE QUIET Stop Posting about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kidicarus13 View Post
    Or buy a newspaper pre-July 1st and take pictures whenever the hell you want.
    Yeah. That was exactly my first thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jim View Post
    Myself i'll follow the laws as written.
    You understand them perfectly as written? I can interpret them to mean just about anything, that's why Kopel filed the lawsuit... "Constitutionally vague" I believe is the term.
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