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    Sucking up are we
    Self control: The minds ability to override the body's urge to beat the living sh.. out of some ass.... who desperately deserves it.

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    Obama, so full of crap it is a miracle Air Force One can even get off the ground,

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    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-0...e-records-2001



    On May 11, 2006, USA Today published an article reporting that AT&T, Verizon, and Bellsouth had been providing the NSA with the telephone records of “tens of millions of Americans” since shortly after September 11, 2001. Called “the largest database ever assembled in the world” by the newspaper’s source, its purported goal was to “‘create a database of every call ever made’ within the nation’s borders.”


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rooskibar03 View Post
    If you don't think every text, email, call, and web search isn't already recorded and saved I've got a bridge to sell you.

    Hello, giant NSA server farm in Utah.
    There's also an NSA facility in AZ at the Army Intelligence HQ... many think everything is done at the big black building in MD, how wrong they are.

    The NSA list of hit terms is very long, and some of it is not even nefarious at face value. Scary stuff. Privacy is a farce. And the whole NSA/Verizon thing, Lindsey Graham (RINO!!!) is perfectly cool with it.
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    Who needs NSA facilities? They just put "rooms" directly into the backbone fiber: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-0...rets-room-641a

    Here's a snippet from the article:

    Room 641A is located in the SBC Communications building at 611 Folsom Street, San Francisco, three floors of which were occupied by AT&T before SBC purchased AT&T. The room was referred to in internal AT&T documents as the SG3 [Study Group 3] Secure Room. It is fed by fiber optic lines from beam splitters installed in fiber optic trunks carrying Internet backbone traffic and, as analyzed by J. Scott Marcus, a former CTO for GTE and a former adviser to the FCC, has access to all Internet traffic that passes through the building, and therefore "the capability to enable surveillance and analysis of internet content on a massive scale, including both overseas and purely domestic traffic." Former director of the NSA’s World Geopolitical and Military Analysis Reporting Group, William Binney, has estimated that 10 to 20 such facilities have been installed throughout the nation.
    The room measures about 24 by 48 feet (7.3 by 15 m) and contains several racks of equipment, including a Narus STA 6400, a device designed to intercept and analyze Internet communications at very high speeds.

    The very existence of the room was revealed by a former AT&T technician, Mark Klein, and was the subject of a 2006 class action lawsuit by the Electronic Frontier Foundation against AT&T.[5] Klein claims he was told that similar black rooms are operated at other facilities around the country.

    Room 641A and the controversies surrounding it were subjects of an episode of Frontline, the current affairs documentary program on PBS. It was originally broadcast on May 15, 2007. It was also featured on PBS's NOW on March 14, 2008. The room was also covered in the PBS NOVA episode "The Spy Factory".
    There is so much more to this, this is just the tip of the iceberg. As fitting for an episode from Atlas Shrugged, there are corporations that are "getting their way" with lobbying the .g0v agencies, which is leading to these kinds of warrants, court orders, breaches, etc. It's mind-boggling and incredibly sad at the same time.
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    Yay Patriot Act?

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    Someone tell me how this is about AR-15s?
    What is my joy if all hands, even the unclean, can reach into it? What is my wisdom, if even the fools can dictate to me? What is my freedom, if all creatures, even the botched and impotent, are my masters? What is my life, if I am but to bow, to agree and to obey?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rooskibar03 View Post
    If you don't think every text, email, call, and web search isn't already recorded and saved I've got a bridge to sell you.

    Hello, giant NSA server farm in Utah.
    Oh I'm aware of that. What is interesting is that this is a Verizon specific court order. Are there similar ones for Sprint, TMobile, etc? Are these restricted to one carrier as opposed to getting a blanket court order that applies to ALL cell carriers in the US?
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    Good people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while bad people will find a way around the laws.

    But, it's for the children!

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    Quote Originally Posted by asmo View Post
    Someone tell me how this is about AR-15s?
    It's about that phone call you made a while ago, and electronic discussion, about that new AR you acquired without a bgc in a private, fully legal, FTF sale!

    It's my opinion that this has NOTHING to do with the Patriot Act, public safety or anything else, but instead about protecting certain corporations' assets and interests (no, not the telecoms), and promoting the new 'war on cyber terrorism' (which will then lead to more legislation that erodes freedoms and shreds what's left of our founding documents).
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    Quote Originally Posted by asmo View Post
    Someone tell me how this is about AR-15s?
    In the immortal words of David Spade: "Hi, I'm Earth, have we met?"
    "There is no news in the truth, and no truth in the news."
    "The revolution will not be televised... Instead it will be filmed from multiple angles via cell phone cameras, promptly uploaded to YouTube, Tweeted about, and then shared on Facebook, pending a Wi-Fi connection."

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    I wonder what Obama will do in his third term of office...

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