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    Default NSA collecting Verizon customers' data

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013...on-court-order

    Why go to so much trouble to secretly collect data to make us safer?

    Why of course...it's not actually about all that.
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    Find your limits, peeps.

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    I need to ditch Google and Verizon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blacklabel View Post
    I need to ditch Google and Verizon.
    Google is actually one of the better companies when it comes to handing over user info and data. They refused until a judge ordered them to do so. Apple and others will hand it over with just a smile and a wink. Unfortunately most companies use their data for making more money and that can cross a thin line at times, if they get caught they apologize and move on, but how many times are they not getting caught. Some companies are better than others when it comes to your info and who they will turn it over to. If this Verizon thing is true, yeah it is scary, not because it is Verizon, but because of who is doing it = .gov
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    Quote Originally Posted by cmailliard View Post
    Google is actually one of the better companies when it comes to handing over user info and data. They refused until a judge ordered them to do so. Apple and others will hand it over with just a smile and a wink. Unfortunately most companies use their data for making more money and that can cross a thin line at times, if they get caught they apologize and move on, but how many times are they not getting caught. Some companies are better than others when it comes to your info and who they will turn it over to. If this Verizon thing is true, yeah it is scary, not because it is Verizon, but because of who is doing it = .gov
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    They want to listen have at it. With a collection of tax stamps i doubt they're not the only .org
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    If you don't think every text, email, call, and web search isn't already recorded and saved I've got a bridge to sell you.

    Hello, giant NSA server farm in Utah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rooskibar03 View Post
    If you don't think every text, email, call, and web search isn't already recorded and saved I've got a bridge to sell you.

    Hello, giant NSA server farm in Utah.

    As someone who works for the government... Yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rooskibar03 View Post
    If you don't think every text, email, call, and web search isn't already recorded and saved I've got a bridge to sell you.

    Hello, giant NSA server farm in Utah.
    There's also an NSA facility in AZ at the Army Intelligence HQ... many think everything is done at the big black building in MD, how wrong they are.

    The NSA list of hit terms is very long, and some of it is not even nefarious at face value. Scary stuff. Privacy is a farce. And the whole NSA/Verizon thing, Lindsey Graham (RINO!!!) is perfectly cool with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rooskibar03 View Post
    If you don't think every text, email, call, and web search isn't already recorded and saved I've got a bridge to sell you.

    Hello, giant NSA server farm in Utah.
    Oh I'm aware of that. What is interesting is that this is a Verizon specific court order. Are there similar ones for Sprint, TMobile, etc? Are these restricted to one carrier as opposed to getting a blanket court order that applies to ALL cell carriers in the US?
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