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    Quote Originally Posted by cofi View Post
    i was doing the speed limit if i had been speeding dude would have been splattered across my hood he is damn lucky someone towing a horse trailer or some other bigger and less manurverable vehicle wasnt coming over the hill instead of me

    bikers need to remember that there sharing the road with bigger faster stuff

    last year in the springs i had a moron try to cross platte illegally he didnt see me and i had to slide to a stop coming like a foot away from hitting him he had the nerve to yell at ME wtf
    If you are doing the speed limit, you should see the cyclist from a long way out if you are being attentive at all.
    If you're in a winding front range canyon road, the speed limits are low enough that you should still have plenty of stopping distance (especially uphill) around the blind corners.

    So you splatter a cyclist and "win." What do you win? In all likelihood, a trip to the pokey on manslaughter charges.

    I don't know, I frequently do these same trips (St. Vrain, lefthand, sunshine, coal creek, golden gate, bear creek) in both a huge truck and a road bike without issue. Am I super talented, or just trying to be careful? Unlikely to be the former.


    To the "they should find better places to ride" - let's say you need to get 50, 70, 100 miles and some hills in. You just can't do that on bike paths, and I'd argue bike paths are more dangerous. But, take heart, all of these guys are indeed paying their taxes for this too. My "better place" is the track but Boulder's closed, Erie hasn't opened yet, and the Springs takes forever to get their hours sorted.

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    I have little respect for cyclists as they are always hogging the road and pay little attention to the rules that are also applicable to them in terms of road use.
    What really used to grind my gears though was when I was out running and they’d ride by me with little to no passing room and making as little noise as possible so they scare the crap out of me and my GSD. Maybe I should’ve let my GSD off leash to see how fast they can go?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnTRourke View Post
    i am fully in support of sharing the road taxes with bicyclists.

    I'm not holding my breath waiting for it to happen.
    Well, that's good because it already does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed_S View Post

    Yes Ed? You quoted me? lol
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    Hey Lebowski, as a cyclist, do you take issue with anything I said in post #25?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffrey Lebowski View Post
    If you are doing the speed limit, you should see the cyclist from a long way out if you are being attentive at all.
    If you're in a winding front range canyon road, the speed limits are low enough that you should still have plenty of stopping distance (especially uphill) around the blind corners.
    you didnt read my OP so ill make it clear for you

    a stupid bicylist was right over the crest of a hill stopped in the MIDDLE of the road at 6am TEXTING there was no way to see him until i crested the hill....if my car got tired going up a hill or i needed to send a text i would pull over to the SHOULDER to send my text or lube my legs up or whatever the hell else that guy needed to do
    Last edited by cofi; 06-15-2013 at 09:34.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed_S View Post
    What really used to grind my gears though was when I was out running and they’d ride by me with little to no passing room and making as little noise as possible so they scare the crap out of me and my GSD. Maybe I should’ve let my GSD off leash to see how fast they can go?
    A lot faster than a GSD for a lot longer. $0.02
    I completely hear what you are saying (I run a lot as well), but I stopped making noise when I'm on my bike in most cases.

    I hate to make generalities, but my experience has been most walkers, hikers, runners are all pre-occupied up with each other, their dogs, and worst - their phones and iPods to hear you anyway. Then they act surprised when you've been trying to get their attention for 1/4 of a block. I don't yell anymore either. In my case, even out on 20 mile runs, I never listen to music or anything - and I've been surprised by cyclists and cars. You're out in the zone (or more likely a box of hurt) breathing like a bellows. It isn't their fault or yours and if you act predictably nothing bad will happen in 99.99% of cases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cofi View Post
    you didnt read my OP so ill make it clear for you

    a stupid bicylist was right over the crest of a hill istopped in the MIDDLE of the road at 6am TEXTING there was no way to see him until i crested the hill....if my car got tired going up a hill or i needed to send a text i would pull over to the SHOULDER to send my text or lube my legs up or whatever the hell else that guy needed to do
    I did and my first thought, VERY first sentence, in this thread was that it was stupid and dangerous of him. Maybe go back and recheck that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffrey Lebowski View Post
    I did and my first thought, VERY first sentence, in this thread was that it was stupid and dangerous of him. Maybe go back and recheck that?
    your posts made it seem like i was being reckless....which im not

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoneyBadger View Post
    Hey Lebowski, as a cyclist, do you take issue with anything I said in post #25?
    No. I think you are correct.
    The only thing I can think of with the big shoulder is if it is littered with debris - but absent that, they really should be on the right side of the white and I think that is what you are getting at.

    Quote Originally Posted by cofi View Post
    your posts made it seem like i was being reckless....which im not
    I apologize if that was the case. I snipped the quote to capture what this particular guy was doing stopped in the middle of the road.

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