Friend walked in on a burglary.

[JM Ver. 2.0]

The previous post was meant to be "tongue-in-cheek." I hope to never take another life unless I have a damn good reason. Even then, I expect it will possibly haunt me till the day I die.

As for answering the prosecutor, "why did you enter the home, knowing that entering the home could put you in danger" I'd have to remind him that I am not a pussy, and take it from there.

Fair enough.

Your attorney- if he was any good- would have said "Objection- the individuals inside the home were not innocent, they were breaking and entering and in the process of a burglary, and leading the witness, we can't know if they meant him no harm or not."

By that time the damage is done. Even if they tell the jury to ignore the statement, they can't unhear what they just heard.

But either way, I still want to know what your answer would be.

why so much empathy for the fuckheads who broke into the guys house??? regardless of any of this nonsense, those kids got lucky. sounds like there are enough of us out there who, when there is an intruder in the house, our default could include violence, (justified or not) that these kids got flat out lucky.. even luckier that they dont even have to deal with charges. why thats still something that can be opted out of is beyond me.

I have touched on this thought before, but guys, when the people dont stand up, we are fucked... that includes the day and age of the "lawyer".... we need to take control of our society....

No empathy. The "empathy" I think you're talking about isn't my view.

The kids deserved charges at the least, and a good solid parental ass whooping would be more than justified. But death? That's a bit much.

In order for there to be a crime there has to be a victim... Whether it be society or another person.

Since society can't be the victim of burglary in this case there's only one option left... When that person declines to be the victim... There's no longer a crime.

[Chad4000]

No empathy. The "empathy" I think you're talking about isn't my view.

The kids deserved charges at the least, and a good solid parental ass whooping would be more than justified. But death? That's a bit much.

In order for there to be a crime there has to be a victim... Whether it be society or another person.

Since society can't be the victim of burglary in this case there's only one option left... When that person declines to be the victim... There's no longer a crime.

except for DV or prositution right? my greater point is how come the cops come, they obviously see what happened, and there is still a choice for somebody to be like "nah it's cool these folks broke the law, don't worry about it cops, they're with me"

[JM Ver. 2.0]

except for DV or prositution right? my greater point is how come the cops come, they obviously see what happened, and there is still a choice for somebody to be like "nah it's cool these folks broke the law, don't worry about it cops, they're with me"

DV is a different beast. Prostitution the victim is society.

And because there has to be a victim.

Example: Your wife takes your credit card, without you knowing, to King Soopers and buys food. The store clerk calls the police. They come and see your wife, Sally Joe Chad4000, has your card... Your name, Hill Billy Chad4000, is on the card not Sally Joe Chad4000.

She has broken the law, technically. Now I'm going to assume you don't want pretty little Sally Joe Chad4000 going to jail... So you say it's all good, decline to press charges, and everyone is happy.

If you didn't have that option, little Sally Joe Chad4000 is going to the pokey.

[Chad4000]

DV is a different beast. Prostitution the victim is society.

And because there has to be a victim.

Example: Your wife takes your credit card, without you knowing, to King Soopers and buys food. The store clerk calls the police. They come and see your wife, Sally Joe Chad4000, has your card... Your name, Hill Billy Chad4000, is on the card not Sally Joe Chad4000.

She has broken the law, technically. Now I'm going to assume you don't want pretty little Sally Joe Chad4000 going to jail... So you say it's all good, decline to press charges, and everyone is happy.

If you didn't have that option, little Sally Joe Chad4000 is going to the pokey.

yeah yeah.. I get it for sure. common sense has to prevail. and yes I know that you cant rely on cops having common sense,(lol jk)

but what I would like to see happen, is in a case like this: the guy whos house was broken into doesnt need to be a part of the conviction. meaning he wouldnt have to decline pressing charges (or better yet, wouldnt have to at all is what I really mean) because he is worried about having to be a part of the process which is also run by retards, and will take a hundred years..

I would certainly argue that letting these criminals go after burglarizing somebody creates victims. Like everyone else in the neighborhood. society has been victimized (in much the same way that it is on prostitution) when burglaries are allowed to go unpunished. again there has to be some degree of common sense etc... these kids broke into somebodies home.... gosh they got lucky....

[Cameron]

I received a call at my office that my home alarm had gone off but the monitoring company could only hear music and my dog barking. They said they had also notified law enforcement. I thought that it was most likely a false alarm and probably caused by my dog. So I headed home to make sure and let the cops in if necessary.

When I arrived nothing seemed amiss and the police were nowhere to be seen. I thought that perhaps they had been called off or maybe had something more important to attend to...

Anyway I walked in to MY HOME expecting to see my dog lose and chewing up the couch, it wasn't until in walked into my living room that I saw two men stuffing my property into a bag. When they saw me they immediately turned towards me.

I was so shocked that it wasn't a false alarm and that I was now standing just a few feet from these two intimidating men that I was terrified that they would kill me!
I took two quick steps back and drew my concealed handgun, that is when I heard one of them say "Get him!"
As they both moved to attack me I managed to get off a few shots before they could both reach me.

It was terrifying, a still have nightmares about people breaking into my house and assaulting me....

Your witness.

[funkymonkey1111]

Never did hear what these DAs had to say--or was it their opinions not matter?

[Ronin13]

So I guess the real question is... Will Zimmerman be found guilty or acquitted?

[TFOGGER]

So I guess the real question is... Will Zimmerman be found guilty or acquitted?

Yes. No. I don't know. Purple. 3.1415927. I was told there'd be no math...

[spyder]

Wow, I'm surprised this thread has held out this long.....

[spqrzilla]

Wow, I'm surprised this thread has held out this long.....

It didn't.