Friend walked in on a burglary.

[JM Ver. 2.0]

These "children" are not "innocent" and I couldn't possibly have known that they "meant no harm" to me.

That's if you could even get far enough to open your mouth before your lawyer objected to the question (I assume anyways).

I think "barracks lawyer" should be your new title.

Edit: Damn it...wasn't fast enough. Good work Ronin.

I didn't ask you what your attorney would say... I asked what you would say.

[PugnacAutMortem]

I didn't ask you what your attorney would say... I asked what you would say.

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These "children" are not "innocent" and I couldn't possibly have known that they "meant no harm" to ME.

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Edit: Also...and a little bit of

Edit 2: just because this one makes me laugh.

[Chad4000]

No empathy. The "empathy" I think you're talking about isn't my view.

The kids deserved charges at the least, and a good solid parental ass whooping would be more than justified. But death? That's a bit much.

In order for there to be a crime there has to be a victim... Whether it be society or another person.

Since society can't be the victim of burglary in this case there's only one option left... When that person declines to be the victim... There's no longer a crime.

except for DV or prositution right? my greater point is how come the cops come, they obviously see what happened, and there is still a choice for somebody to be like "nah it's cool these folks broke the law, don't worry about it cops, they're with me"

[JM Ver. 2.0]

except for DV or prositution right? my greater point is how come the cops come, they obviously see what happened, and there is still a choice for somebody to be like "nah it's cool these folks broke the law, don't worry about it cops, they're with me"

DV is a different beast. Prostitution the victim is society.

And because there has to be a victim.

Example: Your wife takes your credit card, without you knowing, to King Soopers and buys food. The store clerk calls the police. They come and see your wife, Sally Joe Chad4000, has your card... Your name, Hill Billy Chad4000, is on the card not Sally Joe Chad4000.

She has broken the law, technically. Now I'm going to assume you don't want pretty little Sally Joe Chad4000 going to jail... So you say it's all good, decline to press charges, and everyone is happy.

If you didn't have that option, little Sally Joe Chad4000 is going to the pokey.

[Chad4000]

DV is a different beast. Prostitution the victim is society.

And because there has to be a victim.

Example: Your wife takes your credit card, without you knowing, to King Soopers and buys food. The store clerk calls the police. They come and see your wife, Sally Joe Chad4000, has your card... Your name, Hill Billy Chad4000, is on the card not Sally Joe Chad4000.

She has broken the law, technically. Now I'm going to assume you don't want pretty little Sally Joe Chad4000 going to jail... So you say it's all good, decline to press charges, and everyone is happy.

If you didn't have that option, little Sally Joe Chad4000 is going to the pokey.

yeah yeah.. I get it for sure. common sense has to prevail. and yes I know that you cant rely on cops having common sense,(lol jk)

but what I would like to see happen, is in a case like this: the guy whos house was broken into doesnt need to be a part of the conviction. meaning he wouldnt have to decline pressing charges (or better yet, wouldnt have to at all is what I really mean) because he is worried about having to be a part of the process which is also run by retards, and will take a hundred years..

I would certainly argue that letting these criminals go after burglarizing somebody creates victims. Like everyone else in the neighborhood. society has been victimized (in much the same way that it is on prostitution) when burglaries are allowed to go unpunished. again there has to be some degree of common sense etc... these kids broke into somebodies home.... gosh they got lucky....

[JM Ver. 2.0]

yeah yeah.. I get it for sure. common sense has to prevail. and yes I know that you cant rely on cops having common sense,(lol jk)

but what I would like to see happen, is in a case like this: the guy whos house was broken into doesnt need to be a part of the conviction. meaning he wouldnt have to decline pressing charges (or better yet, wouldnt have to at all is what I really mean) because he is worried about having to be a part of the process which is also run by retards, and will take a hundred years..

I would certainly argue that letting these criminals go after burglarizing somebody creates victims. Like everyone else in the neighborhood. society has been victimized (in much the same way that it is on prostitution) when burglaries are allowed to go unpunished. again there has to be some degree of common sense etc... these kids broke into somebodies home.... gosh they got lucky....

I agree with you 100%. Charges NEEDED to be pressed and society has suffered because of the lack of charges.

But ultimately it's his choice to make.

But like you said, common sense.



I've taken care of Monky's house before. It would suck if Monky had no choice to say not to charge me with burglary if his neighbor, who is weird as fuck, called the police on me.

[Cameron]

I received a call at my office that my home alarm had gone off but the monitoring company could only hear music and my dog barking. They said they had also notified law enforcement. I thought that it was most likely a false alarm and probably caused by my dog. So I headed home to make sure and let the cops in if necessary.

When I arrived nothing seemed amiss and the police were nowhere to be seen. I thought that perhaps they had been called off or maybe had something more important to attend to...

Anyway I walked in to MY HOME expecting to see my dog lose and chewing up the couch, it wasn't until in walked into my living room that I saw two men stuffing my property into a bag. When they saw me they immediately turned towards me.

I was so shocked that it wasn't a false alarm and that I was now standing just a few feet from these two intimidating men that I was terrified that they would kill me!
I took two quick steps back and drew my concealed handgun, that is when I heard one of them say "Get him!"
As they both moved to attack me I managed to get off a few shots before they could both reach me.

It was terrifying, a still have nightmares about people breaking into my house and assaulting me....

Your witness.

[RblDiver]

Prosecution/Attorney for the guy you shot: Mr. D, why did you enter the home, knowing that entering the home could put you in danger, on the night in question? Why did you put yourself in danger? If you would have just waited for the police these two innocent children would still be alive today. These kids meant no harm to you. But you ran in and played hero, gunning down two unarmed innocent children!!!!!!!

"I strongly object to referring to these two as 'innocent children.' First, they stopped being innocent the moment they engaged in burglary. Second, one is legally an adult, and the other only slightly younger. Third, everyone has the right to defend themselves and their property. Having no idea when police would respond, I re-entered my property to ascertain whether or not it was secure. I was accosted by the two, and, fearing for my safety and that of my family, I took appropriate measures to secure my safety." (I'd have a bit more I'd add, but it'd be "Objection - Supposition"ed :P)

[JM Ver. 2.0]

I received a call at my office that my home alarm had gone off but the monitoring company could only hear music and my dog barking. They said they had also notified law enforcement. I thought that it was most likely a false alarm and probably caused by my dog.
So I headed home to make sure and let the cops in if necessary.
When I arrived nothing seemed amiss and the police were nowhere to be seen. I thought that perhaps they had been called off or maybe had something more important to attend to... Anyway I walked in to MY HOME expecting to see my dog lose and chewing up the couch, it wasn't until in walked into my living room that I saw two men stuffing my property into a bag. When they saw me they immediately turned towards me.
I was so shocked that it wasn't a false alarm and that I was now standing just a few feet from these two intimidating men that I was terrified I took two quick steps back and drew my concealed handgun, that is when I heard one of them said "Get him!"
As they both moved to attack me I was able to shoot each of then 5-6 times.

"I strongly object to referring to these two as 'innocent children.' First, they stopped being innocent the moment they engaged in burglary. Second, one is legally an adult, and the other only slightly younger. Third, everyone has the right to defend themselves and their property. Having no idea when police would respond, I re-entered my property to ascertain whether or not it was secure. I was accosted by the two, and, fearing for my safety and that of my family, I took appropriate measures to secure my safety." (I'd have a bit more I'd add, but it'd be "Objection - Supposition"ed :P)

Those were both better than I expect. I would actually buy that if I was on a jury. You've changed my mind.

[RblDiver]

Those were both better than I expect. I would actually buy that if I was on a jury. You've changed my mind.

Glad to have done so! (Granted, I'd have to ask "Mr Judge Sir, could I please have a laptop to type on and a moment to compose my thoughts?" Otherwise, it'd come out "Um, uh, er, 'cause they were bad, mmkay? )