Friend walked in on a burglary.

[JM Ver. 2.0]

I'm Cameron, I would have thought that was obvious. Let me ask again.

You have made the assertion that knowledge of LE notification in a burglary some how invalidates Colorado state law in regard to the protection of an occupant or home owner, specifically in regard to the use of force. Do you have ANY case law that backs up your premise? Or are you just talking out of your ass?

Cameron

who are you? Seems like this guy is asking a question--you're spewing BS. I guess I just figured out who you are.

brutal and JM ver 2.0

You two gentlemen are making statements that simply are not correct. Largely because you seem to take a specific point you want to make, that would perhaps even be arguable, and then turn it into huge sweeping generalizations that are flat out false.

I'm going to slow it WAY down for you...

You CAN NOT enter your home if you KNOW that there could be a clear and present danger inside your home.

Being alerted by the alarm company that there could be a clear and present danger in your home means that you KNOW there is a clear and present danger.


If you enter your home KNOWING there could be a clear and present danger and you SHOOT THE PERSON IN THE HOUSE, you will be charged and you will be going to jail. Is it right? No. Is that the way it is? YES.

You have to understand the limitations of the law. You can't inject yourself into a life or death situation with the intention of using deadly force. "Oh hey, I'll just walk in on this burglary so I can shoot the asshole stealing my shit."

That WILL NOT FLY. EVER.


You weren't in any danger before you went into the house. You put yourself in danger by entering a situation which you knew could be deadly. That's YOUR BAD.




All of you that are saying, "he should have shot him" are insane. Do you have any idea how that is going to look to a jury?

Alarm company told you there was an alarm and possible intruder. Told you police were on the way. You entered the home anyway and shot the guy inside.

Looks like you said, "I'll teach this asshole to break into my house!" and entered the home with the intention of killing the guy inside.





NOW! If you come home to a wide open door, or even a closed door, and you encounter someone inside your home... That's a different story.

BUT, if you KNOW there might be someone in there, and you KNOW the police are on the way... You sit your happy little ass outside and wait for the police. Lest you sit your happy little ass in prison for the rest of your life.



That's the way it is. That's the way it'll happen. That's the way it'll always be. Is that the way it should be? Well, that's not up to us to decide, sadly.

[Ronin13]

You CAN NOT enter your home if you KNOW that there could be a clear and present danger inside your home.

Being alerted by the alarm company that there could be a clear and present danger in your home means that you KNOW there is a clear and present danger.

Say what!? Please tell me you're joking. And how does the alarm company notifying you that your alarm is going off (no determinate cause) mean that you KNOW there is a clear and present danger inside the dwelling? There may be, there is grounds to suspect, but knowing for sure.... yeah that won't stand up in court. And KNOW there COULD be, that's pretty thin. Please point out in the CRS where it says I cannot enter my own house if there is a potential possibility that there is a danger inside the home. This case, sounds to me like he got the call from ADT, alarm going off, shall we call the police? Yeah, better safe than sorry. Go home, check it out, no signs of forced entry, walk inside- by the way, who knows how long from the time the alarm went off to when this guy arrived at his house, one could assume any intruder(s) had come and gone by then- and oh here are the would-be burglars.

[JM Ver. 2.0]

Say what!? Please tell me you're joking. And how does the alarm company notifying you that your alarm is going off (no determinate cause) mean that you KNOW there is a clear and present danger inside the dwelling? There may be, there is grounds to suspect, but knowing for sure.... yeah that won't stand up in court. And KNOW there COULD be, that's pretty thin. Please point out in the CRS where it says I cannot enter my own house if there is a potential possibility that there is a danger inside the home. This case, sounds to me like he got the call from ADT, alarm going off, shall we call the police? Yeah, better safe than sorry. Go home, check it out, no signs of forced entry, walk inside- by the way, who knows how long from the time the alarm went off to when this guy arrived at his house, one could assume any intruder(s) had come and gone by then- and oh here are the would-be burglars.

I'm not joking at all. That's the way it is.

[Ronin13]

I'm not joking at all. That's the way it is.

Can you please cite the CRS that says if there is a de facto danger inside the house you cannot lawfully enter? And where does the burden of proof lie for proving that you knowingly entered your own home unlawfully due to a danger? I've never heard of this, ever. I've never read anywhere in CRS, case law, or anything that states I can't enter my own home (be it owned or occupied) if there is a *possible* danger. How does one prove with certainty that there is a danger or not for sure in there thus absolving them of any legal liability?