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    Quote Originally Posted by davsel View Post
    The previous post was meant to be "tongue-in-cheek." I hope to never take another life unless I have a damn good reason. Even then, I expect it will possibly haunt me till the day I die.

    As for answering the prosecutor, "why did you enter the home, knowing that entering the home could put you in danger" I'd have to remind him that I am not a pussy, and take it from there.
    Fair enough.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    Your attorney- if he was any good- would have said "Objection- the individuals inside the home were not innocent, they were breaking and entering and in the process of a burglary, and leading the witness, we can't know if they meant him no harm or not."
    By that time the damage is done. Even if they tell the jury to ignore the statement, they can't unhear what they just heard.

    But either way, I still want to know what your answer would be.
    Quote Originally Posted by Chad4000 View Post
    why so much empathy for the fuckheads who broke into the guys house??? regardless of any of this nonsense, those kids got lucky. sounds like there are enough of us out there who, when there is an intruder in the house, our default could include violence, (justified or not) that these kids got flat out lucky.. even luckier that they dont even have to deal with charges. why thats still something that can be opted out of is beyond me.

    I have touched on this thought before, but guys, when the people dont stand up, we are fucked... that includes the day and age of the "lawyer".... we need to take control of our society....
    No empathy. The "empathy" I think you're talking about isn't my view.

    The kids deserved charges at the least, and a good solid parental ass whooping would be more than justified. But death? That's a bit much.

    In order for there to be a crime there has to be a victim... Whether it be society or another person.

    Since society can't be the victim of burglary in this case there's only one option left... When that person declines to be the victim... There's no longer a crime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JM Ver. 2.0 View Post


    No empathy. The "empathy" I think you're talking about isn't my view.

    The kids deserved charges at the least, and a good solid parental ass whooping would be more than justified. But death? That's a bit much.

    In order for there to be a crime there has to be a victim... Whether it be society or another person.

    Since society can't be the victim of burglary in this case there's only one option left... When that person declines to be the victim... There's no longer a crime.
    except for DV or prositution right? my greater point is how come the cops come, they obviously see what happened, and there is still a choice for somebody to be like "nah it's cool these folks broke the law, don't worry about it cops, they're with me"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chad4000 View Post
    except for DV or prositution right? my greater point is how come the cops come, they obviously see what happened, and there is still a choice for somebody to be like "nah it's cool these folks broke the law, don't worry about it cops, they're with me"
    DV is a different beast. Prostitution the victim is society.

    And because there has to be a victim.

    Example: Your wife takes your credit card, without you knowing, to King Soopers and buys food. The store clerk calls the police. They come and see your wife, Sally Joe Chad4000, has your card... Your name, Hill Billy Chad4000, is on the card not Sally Joe Chad4000.

    She has broken the law, technically. Now I'm going to assume you don't want pretty little Sally Joe Chad4000 going to jail... So you say it's all good, decline to press charges, and everyone is happy.

    If you didn't have that option, little Sally Joe Chad4000 is going to the pokey.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JM Ver. 2.0 View Post
    DV is a different beast. Prostitution the victim is society.

    And because there has to be a victim.

    Example: Your wife takes your credit card, without you knowing, to King Soopers and buys food. The store clerk calls the police. They come and see your wife, Sally Joe Chad4000, has your card... Your name, Hill Billy Chad4000, is on the card not Sally Joe Chad4000.

    She has broken the law, technically. Now I'm going to assume you don't want pretty little Sally Joe Chad4000 going to jail... So you say it's all good, decline to press charges, and everyone is happy.

    If you didn't have that option, little Sally Joe Chad4000 is going to the pokey.
    yeah yeah.. I get it for sure. common sense has to prevail. and yes I know that you cant rely on cops having common sense,(lol jk)

    but what I would like to see happen, is in a case like this: the guy whos house was broken into doesnt need to be a part of the conviction. meaning he wouldnt have to decline pressing charges (or better yet, wouldnt have to at all is what I really mean) because he is worried about having to be a part of the process which is also run by retards, and will take a hundred years..

    I would certainly argue that letting these criminals go after burglarizing somebody creates victims. Like everyone else in the neighborhood. society has been victimized (in much the same way that it is on prostitution) when burglaries are allowed to go unpunished. again there has to be some degree of common sense etc... these kids broke into somebodies home.... gosh they got lucky....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chad4000 View Post
    yeah yeah.. I get it for sure. common sense has to prevail. and yes I know that you cant rely on cops having common sense,(lol jk)

    but what I would like to see happen, is in a case like this: the guy whos house was broken into doesnt need to be a part of the conviction. meaning he wouldnt have to decline pressing charges (or better yet, wouldnt have to at all is what I really mean) because he is worried about having to be a part of the process which is also run by retards, and will take a hundred years..

    I would certainly argue that letting these criminals go after burglarizing somebody creates victims. Like everyone else in the neighborhood. society has been victimized (in much the same way that it is on prostitution) when burglaries are allowed to go unpunished. again there has to be some degree of common sense etc... these kids broke into somebodies home.... gosh they got lucky....
    I agree with you 100%. Charges NEEDED to be pressed and society has suffered because of the lack of charges.

    But ultimately it's his choice to make.

    But like you said, common sense.



    I've taken care of Monky's house before. It would suck if Monky had no choice to say not to charge me with burglary if his neighbor, who is weird as fuck, called the police on me.

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