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    Possesses Antidote for "Cool" Gman's Avatar
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    Yep. We're all paying for something that isn't sustainable nor does it become net positive over time. They'd be better off spending the money for conventional power generation that makes sense instead of making the wind turbine and solar pushers wealthy at our expense. The pushers selling the hardware are the winners in this proposition. The taxpayers get left holding the bag.

    The Obama voters across the street love their solar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gman View Post
    Yep. We're all paying for something that isn't sustainable nor does it become net positive over time. They'd be better off spending the money for conventional power generation that makes sense instead of making the wind turbine and solar pushers wealthy at our expense. The pushers selling the hardware are the winners in this proposition. The taxpayers get left holding the bag.

    The Obama voters across the street love their solar.
    So by that you align me with Obama voters?

    Snort.

    Do I agree with the subsidies? Nope. Am I going to make use of them since I am paying for them? Yup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tmleadr03 View Post
    So by that you align me with Obama voters?

    Snort.

    Do I agree with the subsidies? Nope. Am I going to make use of them since I am paying for them? Yup.
    Ya know, I am no leftie (not for about 20 years anyway) and I don't like subsidies, handouts and shit. But I sure as hell collected unemployment when I got laid off so I could feed my kids. Not quite the same thing, I know.

    Good for you if you can make it work. Please keep us posted on how it works, reliability, maintenance costs, etc.

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    That appears to be a very clean install, it looks nice on the roof. Does the lease include changing the panels out for newer, more efficient panels later?

    Quote Originally Posted by tmleadr03 View Post
    So by that you align me with Obama voters?

    Snort.

    Do I agree with the subsidies? Nope. Am I going to make use of them since I am paying for them? Yup.
    This is how I see it. Working folks pay an enormous amount of taxes, this is one way to get some of those stolen monies back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roberth View Post
    That appears to be a very clean install, it looks nice on the roof. Does the lease include changing the panels out for newer, more efficient panels later?



    This is how I see it. Working folks pay an enormous amount of taxes, this is one way to get some of those stolen monies back.
    The way the lease works is that it isn't my solar panels till the lease is over. They maintain them and guarantee the lifetime output for the life of the lease. They also check it every few years to make sure it is performing as pro missed and if it isn't they either lower the payment or fix it. Upgrades, not so much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tmleadr03 View Post
    So by that you align me with Obama voters?

    Snort.

    Do I agree with the subsidies? Nope. Am I going to make use of them since I am paying for them? Yup.

    Maybe not linking anyone to obama voters, but it is economically unfeasible. Solar power is alchemy it will not work on its own.

    The problem is that people get the systems, money goes to cronys, (violently anti gun) then program gets renewed because so many people purchased. The man takes more of your money to give to cronies, now you are a serf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gman View Post
    Yep. We're all paying for something that isn't sustainable nor does it become net positive over time. They'd be better off spending the money for conventional power generation that makes sense instead of making the wind turbine and solar pushers wealthy at our expense. The pushers selling the hardware are the winners in this proposition. The taxpayers get left holding the bag.

    The Obama voters across the street love their solar.
    I don't understand this. How is it not sustainable or net positive? My buddy in S. Ft Collins had them installed last year and he is at 110-150% usage, so he gets money credited back for the excess electricity he is producing on his roof.
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