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    Ok I understand some of the arguments about the lack of transparency with solar (or wind for that matter). No one shows the land getting slagged to mine the rare earth metals. No one shows the pollution from the production facilities in China nor do they take into account the coal fired plants producing the energy to make the solar panels. The alternative energy side just sees the production of clean energy without acknowledging the "carbon footprint" of the manufacturing process.

    On the other side part of the argument makes sense from a standpoint of energy independence (if only our energy policy were so and we were drilling for all the gas and oil Colorado could produce). Instead of building more energy production plants either natural gas or coal we can turn suburbia into a daytime producing plant by sending back energy espcially during peak hours in the day time. Our gas and oil could be better spent moving us from point A to B without having to be beholden to people who fund others who hate us and want to do us ill will. Solar is an integral part of any person trying to get "off grid" but I would also utilize wind if availble, wood gasification (there is a new company just moved into Douglas county that builds large generators that are super efficient and also produces electricity from the heat production, a smaller version is the Biolite stove where you can heat up your meal and charge your phone or other electronic device at the same time). Think about how much water we have to send downstream in the Colorado just for energy production to keep Las Vegas, Phoenix and So Cal cool in the summer.

    I see the spending to incentivise solar purchases just like any other infrastructure spending project for local, city or state good. I am not a big Gov believer and we would have more purchases outright on new homes but I have been told the language does not account as an upgrade that can be rolled into the value of the home and therefore allowed in the loan. Again if it was tied to a real energy policy that moved the US to be energy independent of middle east oil then this makes sense. And I firmly believe in fracking for all the oil and natural gas our reserves will produce.

    So if I was not under IREA I would have a system installed. Part for "what if" scenarios I would have my own energy if the power did go off during the day and I would not have to run my generator all day, just at night. I could opt to add battery banks at some time later to store first then sell back the extra.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gman View Post
    Thanks for the link. Holy crap, a 19 page agreement. I did find it positive that they wouldn't put a lien on your home. I'm still not done going through it in my 'spare time'. Their website indicates no options for buyout with a lease. Would you happen to have a link to their lease agreement?

    As to no degradation, that's simply not possible; NREL: Photovoltaic Degradation Rates — An Analytical Review
    I believe their contract is the lease agreement? I haven't looked too closely at it either. I was supposed to meet with Solar City again tomorrow, but it just got pushed back to Sunday. I'll report back with any other details.

    Quote Originally Posted by samurai64 View Post

    So if I was not under IREA I would have a system installed. Part for "what if" scenarios I would have my own energy if the power did go off during the day and I would not have to run my generator all day, just at night. I could opt to add battery banks at some time later to store first then sell back the extra.

    Just my $0.02 worth.
    My neighbor who has the solar city equipment, did have them install a different inverter that supports generator input. I will also look into the same setup. I'm not sure if there is any additional costs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gnihcraes View Post
    I believe their contract is the lease agreement? I haven't looked too closely at it either. I was supposed to meet with Solar City again tomorrow, but it just got pushed back to Sunday. I'll report back with any other details.
    http://www.solarcity.com/residential/solar-ppa.aspx
    How is SolarPPA different than SolarLease?Our SolarPPA and SolarLease are both great options. They offer similar financial advantages to the homeowner. The primary difference is that with a lease you pay by the month, and with a PPA you pay per kWh. Another benefit of the SolarPPA is that you can purchase the system anytime after year five. Availability of SolarPPA and SolarLease vary by location based on what your local utility company prefers.


    Please let us know how it goes. The idea of them replacing the roof just seems crazy. I must say that I'm now intrigued.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gman View Post
    http://www.solarcity.com/residential/solar-ppa.aspx


    Please let us know how it goes. The idea of them replacing the roof just seems crazy. I must say that I'm now intrigued.

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    i know of several homes in bailey that have solar and would be in IREAs system, the only thing i know about IREA is that there are no incentives paid to install like there would be with xcel.
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    I am in the process of getting Solar City to come and out have a look at my house. For those that run their AC all of the time...big difference with moving to solar? We are now torn to between just replacing the roof before the panels go on or doing the roof 5 years down the road. Decisions decisions!

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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Giv View Post
    I am in the process of getting Solar City to come and out have a look at my house. For those that run their AC all of the time...big difference with moving to solar? We are now torn to between just replacing the roof before the panels go on or doing the roof 5 years down the road. Decisions decisions!
    Solar City told me they would replace the roof if needed, before installing panels. My garage would need a roof before panels are installed, so we'll see if they tell me "they pay for it" again when we meet sunday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gnihcraes View Post
    Solar City told me they would replace the roof if needed, before installing panels. My garage would need a roof before panels are installed, so we'll see if they tell me "they pay for it" again when we meet sunday.
    Now that's crazy. Please let me know what they say!

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    Oh, and I talked to State Farm about putting solar on the house, they said go for it, no change on their policies.

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