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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave View Post
    I really don't have a problem with the idea of public schools, it's one of the few things I think the government should provide, and I'm ok with paying taxes for them. What I do not like is how every year schools keep asking for more money and turning out graduates who are progressively worse as a group each year. Some of it is the schools, and some of it is the parents. But we are not heading in a good direction with public schools right now in education quality, let alone how they have become indoctrination centers for political party dogma.
    Our education system is Colorado has focused on teaching kids to be prepared to take a yearly test called CSAP. Each school and district is scored on the results of these test for funding and resources. By having this approach students aren't getting a true education they're only being taught what they'll be tested for. The end result of this teaching approach ends up turning out graduates that have a pretty crappy education.
    Back when I was a kid there was no mainstreaming like now, we sent kids that had mental issue's to state schools, we had special Ed kids that were taught the basics to function as adults and then everyone else. Now the protocol is to put all kids in the same general Ed classes, by doing so it takes away from the students that can be educated and that have a future. My wife is a High School teacher and the crap she tells me just disgust me, it’s ridiculous what is wasted on kids that don’t have the capacity to learn beyond what a third grader is taught. From the socialist regime at the School District level to the parents of the kids that should be in state schools or special ED the system is broke.
    People that are educated and fiscally responsible reproduce within their means and take responsibility for their offspring. The burden on our education system and society stems from the undereducated which general includes the fiscally irresponsible population. To go pretty far to the right there should be a aptitude/IQ test that is given to all before they reach sexual maturity, if you fail you get clipped and the gene pool ends there.

    I have 2 kids in High School both are in advanced classes call STEM and will go on to college for Engineering. I’m not counting on scholarships (I’m in the wrong demographic) and fully prepared to pay tuition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtrulz View Post
    Why dont we just make the people with children pay for their children's education. Then maybe they will take it seriously and actually pay attention and learn something. Paying for schools with property taxes is stupid when half the people with kids dont own property, why should I have to pay for some kid to go to school and fail.
    By all means, I'm a huge fan of this. I would rather have my tax money go more to my kids, than other people and what they think are important...
    Quote Originally Posted by roberth View Post
    Short answer is because most parents are simply sperm or egg donors, after sexual congress the product is society's problem.
    Sounds like you have a shitty set of parents....
    Quote Originally Posted by dirtrulz View Post
    Sorry, but spending billions to get a 1 in 1000 odds is never ok. Thats kind of like their if it saves one child argument. There are other things the money could be used for other than crappy schools or forein aid.

    Every parent should have to have some skin in the game. Even ifit is only 50 a month. If the parent cant afford it then the cost will be based on grades. At least then if i am forced to pay for the freeloaders they will at least be learning something. That and get rid of tenure and the crappy burned out teachers who could care less about students.
    So... Your fix would be to let the stupid go out into the world to get even more retarded, and take away any chance for a less fortunate child to make it, affectively making more stupid people? Yep, that sounds like the smart choice... also, the graduation rate is a lot higher than 1 in a thousand.
    If you make something idiot proof, someone will make a better idiot... Forget youth, what we need is a fountain of smart. There are no stupid questions, just a lot of inquisitive idiots.
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