Help settle dispute on athleticism...

[SuperiorDG]

Athleticism is not even a proper word. The suffix “ism” generally refers to a belief system like atheism or Communism, a condition like alcoholism, or a behavior pattern like heroism or colonialism; all three of these categories of “isms” involve behavioral choices made by a person or group of people; none refer to natural ability or any other inherent characteristics; there is no word where the suffix “ism” means “ability” or an extraordinary presence of its root prefix, in this case, the word “athlete;” what the guy who coined the word athleticism was searching for was “athleticity;” “icity“ or “ity” are suffixes designed to convert an adjective into a noun like “ethnic” to “ethnicity” or “elastic” to “elasticity;” not that I’m pushing for the word “athleticity;” like “athleticism,” it has five syllables; I recommend we stick with “athletic ability” in spite of its seven-syllable length, although I would welcome an intelligent, shorter word for it; for those who claim football people are illiterate morons, the use of the word “athleticism” is further evidence they might be right

[JM Ver. 2.0]

Who is the dillhole that voted Basketball but is too much of a wuss to show himself in the thread?

Now there's two... Tryin' to troll the poll.....

[hghclsswhitetrsh]

I vote mma. Haha

[JM Ver. 2.0]

Athleticism is not even a proper word. The suffix “ism” generally refers to a belief system like atheism or Communism, a condition like alcoholism, or a behavior pattern like heroism or colonialism; all three of these categories of “isms” involve behavioral choices made by a person or group of people; none refer to natural ability or any other inherent characteristics; there is no word where the suffix “ism” means “ability” or an extraordinary presence of its root prefix, in this case, the word “athlete;” what the guy who coined the word athleticism was searching for was “athleticity;” “icity“ or “ity” are suffixes designed to convert an adjective into a noun like “ethnic” to “ethnicity” or “elastic” to “elasticity;” not that I’m pushing for the word “athleticity;” like “athleticism,” it has five syllables; I recommend we stick with “athletic ability” in spite of its seven-syllable length, although I would welcome an intelligent, shorter word for it; for those who claim football people are illiterate morons, the use of the word “athleticism” is further evidence they might be right

[Ronin13]

Athleticism is not even a proper word. The suffix “ism” generally refers to a belief system like atheism or Communism, a condition like alcoholism, or a behavior pattern like heroism or colonialism; all three of these categories of “isms” involve behavioral choices made by a person or group of people; none refer to natural ability or any other inherent characteristics; there is no word where the suffix “ism” means “ability” or an extraordinary presence of its root prefix, in this case, the word “athlete;” what the guy who coined the word athleticism was searching for was “athleticity;” “icity“ or “ity” are suffixes designed to convert an adjective into a noun like “ethnic” to “ethnicity” or “elastic” to “elasticity;” not that I’m pushing for the word “athleticity;” like “athleticism,” it has five syllables; I recommend we stick with “athletic ability” in spite of its seven-syllable length, although I would welcome an intelligent, shorter word for it; for those who claim football people are illiterate morons, the use of the word “athleticism” is further evidence they might be right

*tap tap* excuse me sir, would you mind not peeing in my cheerios?

[missionxo]

Athleticism is not even a proper word. The suffix “ism” generally refers to a belief system like atheism or Communism, a condition like alcoholism, or a behavior pattern like heroism or colonialism; all three of these categories of “isms” involve behavioral choices made by a person or group of people; none refer to natural ability or any other inherent characteristics; there is no word where the suffix “ism” means “ability” or an extraordinary presence of its root prefix, in this case, the word “athlete;” what the guy who coined the word athleticism was searching for was “athleticity;” “icity“ or “ity” are suffixes designed to convert an adjective into a noun like “ethnic” to “ethnicity” or “elastic” to “elasticity;” not that I’m pushing for the word “athleticity;” like “athleticism,” it has five syllables; I recommend we stick with “athletic ability” in spite of its seven-syllable length, although I would welcome an intelligent, shorter word for it; for those who claim football people are illiterate morons, the use of the word “athleticism” is further evidence they might be right

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[JM Ver. 2.0]

I'm going to take some heat for this too... Oh well...

Ol' Number 99... He's not "the great one"...

He's what you would call, a player beyond his time..

When he set all his records, goaltending and defense was NOTHING like it is now...

If you sent a Crosby, Ovechkin, Duchane, Landeskog, Stamkos, or a Marchand back to ol' Wayne's time... They would blow his records out of the water...

If you sent a Luango, Niemi, Crawford, Rask, Thomas, or Miller back to Wayne's time... You'd have guys with stupid stats...


Just an observation....

[BPTactical]

Conditioning wise I would think they are probably somewhat comparable. Both require good aerobic conditioning. B-Ball you are on the court full-time but you are not going balls out the entire time. An average shift on ice is 40-60 seconds but you are all out for that time. B-Ball requires a bit of explosive muscle work (aclactic conditioning IIRC) but nothing compared to hockey.
Play with a high level player and you are amazed at how they reach full speed in 3 strides. Forsberg, Sakic-their quads look like beer kegs.
By far the best conditioned player physically and mentally has to be the goaltender. He is on ice the entire game and requires strength, agility, cat reflexes, flexibility and brass balls. Do you have any idea what it takes to not flinch when somebody cranks a slap shot from 15' out from the net?
You can have all of the above but if you don't have a "head for the game" and constant laser intensity and focus you will only be so-so. A momentary mental lapse and Poof, the biscuit is in the basket.

JM, what make a player such as Gretzky and Roy, Belfour, Broduer etc great is not so much their athleticism but their "hockey head".
Gretzky KNEW where he was, where the puck was and his team mates were without looking.
Great goaltenders don't flop like fish and make spectacular saves.
The best save is the one you don't move to make, for you read the play correctly and played the position correctly.

[missionxo]

I'm going to take some heat for this too... Oh well...

Ol' Number 99... He's not "the great one"...

He's what you would call, a player beyond his time..

When he set all his records, goaltending and defense was NOTHING like it is now...

If you sent a Crosby, Ovechkin, Duchane, Landeskog, Stamkos, or a Marchand back to ol' Wayne's time... They would blow his records out of the water...

If you sent a Luango, Niemi, Crawford, Rask, Thomas, or Miller back to Wayne's time... You'd have guys with stupid stats...


Just an observation....

I have to disagree with you.

[JM Ver. 2.0]

You can disagree all you want. You're entitled to it.

But I promise it's true.