ZIMMERMAN TRIAL LIVE LINK

[Ronin13]

You thought wrong. Molina isn't me, so how is it relevant? I never said a 17 year old couldn't beat other people to death in a fight, just that they couldn't beat me to death in a fight, based on the fact that they'd have to get on top of me to do it, and I have 20 years of training and results indicating that it isn't anything for me to be worried about. People can't get on top of me if I don't want them to. I won't hit my head on the concrete when someone takes me down. It doesn't mean I'm tough. It doesn't mean I can throw a punch.

[spyder]

What a pussified country we live in. Half the guys on this forum wouldn't help a woman being killed outside their own door, and the other half are afraid for their life in a little fist fight.

Whoa there cupcake, what half do you fit in then? I mean, just simple mathematics and all.....

[mtnhack]

You thought wrong. Molina isn't me, so how is it relevant? I never said a 17 year old couldn't beat other people to death in a fight, just that they couldn't beat me to death in a fight, based on the fact that they'd have to get on top of me to do it, and I have 20 years of training and results indicating that it isn't anything for me to be worried about. ...

If someone knocked me out before I felt threatened for my life, which I acknowledge anyone could do,....Full of contradictions

If I got in a fight with a lone unarmed 17 year old, or most people, I wouldn't immediately draw my firearm because I wouldn't be afraid for my life. .

This is what happened to Molina, didn't feel threatened enough to draw, sucker punched (lights out), mounted and beat to death while out.

[Mick-Boy]

You thought wrong. Molina isn't me, so how is it relevant? I never said a 17 year old couldn't beat other people to death in a fight, just that they couldn't beat me to death in a fight, based on the fact that they'd have to get on top of me to do it, and I have 20 years of training and results indicating that it isn't anything for me to be worried about. People can't get on top of me if I don't want them to. I won't hit my head on the concrete when someone takes me down. It doesn't mean I'm tough. It doesn't mean I can throw a punch.

Everyone else, including you, what are you saying? That 17 year olds are a potential threat, so you should carry a firearm? We'll I already do that, and at the point that I felt threatened for my life, I would use it. If someone knocked me out before I felt threatened for my life, which I acknowledge anyone could do, what difference would it make if it were you, me, if you were carrying or not, or what your position was on this issue? You're not going to draw before you feel threatened for your life.

If I got in a fight with a lone unarmed 17 year old, or most people, I wouldn't immediately draw my firearm because I wouldn't be afraid for my life. How does my position differ from yours? How does my position differ from George Zimmerman's? Are you saying that you'd draw your weapon and use it to avoid any fist fight/scuffle with any person? I assume that's what you're saying. If not, what are you saying?

What a pussified country we live in. Half the guys on this forum wouldn't help a woman being killed outside their own door, and the other half are afraid for their life in a little fist fight.

My point is that dismissing someone as a threat simply based on age can be a very dangerous and possibly fatal assumption.

In your post your said

I never said a 17 year old couldn't beat other people to death in a fight, just that they couldn't beat me to death in a fight, based on the fact that they'd have to get on top of me to do it, and I have 20 years of training and results indicating that it isn't anything for me to be worried about.

And then followed it with

If someone knocked me out before I felt threatened for my life, which I acknowledge anyone could do, what difference would it make if it were you, me, if you were carrying or not, or what your position was on this issue?

Officer Molina was, based on news stories (I know, I know), sucker punched hard enough that he didn't(couldn't?) protect his head when he was taken to the ground. The impact on the ground knocked him senseless enough that he was beaten to death....by a 17 year old.

I love earned confidence (even bordering on arrogance). Most of the guys I work with exhibit the same trait. That kind of confidence mostly comes from having been through enough that you have intimate knowledge of how you're going to react, body and mind, to a similar situation.

Blowing off an unknown factor as someone that "isn't anything to be worried about" based on your level of training is arrogance bordering on ignorance. Murphy is always a factor.

[Kraven251]

I saw this and liked it, I may have to pay attention to more of this guy's stuff. (if a repost, my apologies and talk tot he guy on the left)

[trlcavscout]

I saw this and liked it, I may have to pay attention to more of this guy's stuff. (if a repost, my apologies and talk tot he guy on the left)

Awesome video from a very intelligent individual. "Grand cougar" hahaha

[robertcolorado2009]

I think he's got it right! This pastor is being very realistic and truthful. Not JUST black.

[Zundfolge]

Massad Ayoob's take on the Zimmerman case.

Part 1
Part 2 - The "Unarmed Teen"
Part 3 - Who Started It?

Case Closed

[Ronin13]

Massad Ayoob's take on the Zimmerman case.

Part 1
Part 2 - The "Unarmed Teen"
Part 3 - Who Started It?

Case Closed

That was very well written, Mr Ayoob sure does reiterate a lot of good points I've heard during this whole fiasco, such as:
"When Zimmerman lost sight of Martin, the latter was a very short distance from home. Yet in the four minutes thereafter, he had to have left that location and gone toward Zimmerman’s."
"And if Martin really believed he was in danger from the man watching him, why didn’t he simply call the police from the phone he was already speaking on?"

Too bad so many useful idiots that think with emotion rather than reason and obviously have zero faith in our justice system won't agree with those plain and simple thoughts.

[Dave]

http://news.yahoo.com/black-americas...070000529.html

Might be a repost, sorry if it is.