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    A bump.....now as exercise on the elliptic trainer at the local 24 hour fitness. I notice the latist spin from CNN is that George may have out for blood because he had a CCW permit and get this because he had his KelTec with a round in the chamber. Apparently CNN thinks that is very dangerous and that we CCW carriers should have to rack the slide before we fire. First off I nver carry my semis without a round in the chamber, why would you? Could.be your life if you had too. Damm I hate this trial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by battle_sight_zero View Post
    A bump.....now as exercise on the elliptic trainer at the local 24 hour fitness. I notice the latist spin from CNN is that George may have out for blood because he had a CCW permit and get this because he had his KelTec with a round in the chamber. Apparently CNN thinks that is very dangerous and that we CCW carriers should have to rack the slide before we fire. First off I nver carry my semis without a round in the chamber, why would you? Could.be your life if you had too. Damm I hate this trial.
    It is an interesting look at what any of us could face if we find ourself in the situation of defending ourself or another. This trial should be an excellent example of why all of us would rather escape than confront if possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by battle_sight_zero View Post
    A bump.....now as exercise on the elliptic trainer at the local 24 hour fitness. I notice the latist spin from CNN is that George may have out for blood because he had a CCW permit and get this because he had his KelTec with a round in the chamber. Apparently CNN thinks that is very dangerous and that we CCW carriers should have to rack the slide before we fire. First off I nver carry my semis without a round in the chamber, why would you? Could.be your life if you had too. Damm I hate this trial.
    A semi auto without a round chambered is a really expensive and poorly designed hammer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clublights View Post
    A semi auto without a round chambered is a really expensive and poorly designed hammer.
    And yet I'd take a semi auto without a round chambered over a well designed hammer any day.

    The odds say if you need the firearm you're carrying, you'll have time to chamber a round. In fact given that there are infinite reasons you might need a firearm, and there are less reasons you'd need a round chambered at the moment you draw the firearm, it's almost a certainty that you don't need a round chambered to make carrying a firearm worthwhile.

    Bottom line: it's worth carrying a firearm, even if it's not chambered. Chambered or not is just preference, although I think you're safer, even if by a tiny amount, if you don't carry chambered. The hammer analogy doesn't make sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by generalmeow View Post
    And yet I'd take a semi auto without a round chambered over a well designed hammer any day.Kimi

    The odds say if you need the firearm you're carrying, you'll have time to chamber a round. In fact given that there are infinite reasons you might need a firearm, and there are less reasons you'd need a round chambered at the moment you draw the firearm, it's almost a certainty that you don't need a round chambered to make carrying a firearm worthwhile.

    Bottom line: it's worth carrying a firearm, even if it's not chambered. Chambered or not is just preference, although I think you're safer, even if by a tiny amount, if you don't carry chambered. The hammer analogy doesn't make sense.
    Yes its worth carrying a firearm, however lets look at this case. If George is telling the truth he would mould most likely be dead or suffering from severe injuries if he to cock his firearm. I admit I have several pistols in my carry rotation and for the first few times I carried my glocks or m&ps I was a bit scared and worried. I eventually got over it, and realize that the only way that they would fire accidentally is if I was careless. As I mentioned in my younger days I have been attacked out of the blue, thankfully only with clown s with knifes and because I was in great shape and trained in hand to hand I came out on the better end but I will always remember that experience and the life lessons it gave me. Now 20 some odd years later I dont have that spry ability and if I am trampled and pounded I dont want to come up the loosing end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by battle_sight_zero View Post
    Yes its worth carrying a firearm, however lets look at this case. If George is telling the truth he would mould most likely be dead or suffering from severe injuries if he to cock his firearm. I admit I have several pistols in my carry rotation and for the first few times I carried my glocks or m&ps I was a bit scared and worried. I eventually got over it, and realize that the only way that they would fire accidentally is if I was careless. As I mentioned in my younger days I have been attacked out of the blue, thankfully only with clown s with knifes and because I was in great shape and trained in hand to hand I came out on the better end but I will always remember that experience and the life lessons it gave me. Now 20 some odd years later I dont have that spry ability and if I am trampled and pounded I dont want to come up the loosing end.
    George Zimmerman is a pussy. He got worked over by a 17 year old.

    In any case, the math in my head says that I'm more likely to have a careless accident at some point in my life with a chambered Glock, than to be in need of a chambered firearm and a split second decision to pull the trigger at some point in my life.

    I carry a unchambed gun because I believe the chances of needing an unchambered firearm at some point in my life are greater than having an accident.

    Its all about made up odds for me. Whatever the odds my brain makes up are what I live by, and I can appreciate that everyone else does the same.

    If someone says I'd be just as safe carrying a hammer, I take offense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by generalmeow View Post
    George Zimmerman is a pussy. He got worked over by a 17 year old.

    In any case, the math in my head says that I'm more likely to have a careless accident at some point in my life with a chambered Glock, than to be in need of a chambered firearm and a split second decision to pull the trigger at some point in my life.

    I carry a unchambed gun because I believe the chances of needing an unchambered firearm at some point in my life are greater than having an accident.

    Its all about made up odds for me. Whatever the odds my brain makes up are what I live by, and I can appreciate that everyone else does the same.

    If someone says I'd be just as safe carrying a hammer, I take offense.
    Big statement calling him a pussy because a 17 year old worked him over. Plenty of 17 yo kids out there would beat your face to a pulp before you reached for your unchambered gun.

    Your opinion is yours but it can be used against you. If you had enough time to pull your weapon, chamber a round then aim and fire you should have had enough time to run or fight off the attack non-lethally...then again all 17 yo kids can't take your hard ass now can they....
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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper7 View Post
    Big statement calling him a pussy because a 17 year old worked him over. Plenty of 17 yo kids out there would beat your face to a pulp before you reached for your unchambered gun.

    Your opinion is yours but it can be used against you. If you had enough time to pull your weapon, chamber a round then aim and fire you should have had enough time to run or fight off the attack non-lethally...then again all 17 yo kids can't take your hard ass now can they....
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