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    The "Godfather" of COAR Great-Kazoo's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by bellavite1 View Post
    Tell you what: I had my fair share too, but I feel that , for those of us who carry, and are able bodies, it is not a bad advice.
    I for one would not mind polishing the few skills I have, so I will ask the same question, this time seriously: anybody cares to suggest a discipline that would have helped in this scenario so that Z would have not had to use deadly force?
    I am more than interested in taking classes.
    Avoidance is the only option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jim View Post
    Avoidance is the only option.
    Agreed.....supposed zimmerman was a bad ass wrestler slammed travon on that sidewalk popped something in martins brain and killed him????

    Walk away until you have no other choice

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim View Post
    Avoidance is the only option.
    Yep ... the real lesson here is to make sure you live where there are no black people. Because there's a chance that one of them might be a criminal and if they attack you and you use legitimate self defense you're screwed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    Yep ... the real lesson here is to make sure you live where there are no black people. Because there's a chance that one of them might be a criminal and if they attack you and you use legitimate self defense you're screwed.
    And the real problem with our country is that we're petrified to state the truth.

    So when are you moving out of Colorado Springs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim View Post
    Avoidance is the only option.
    Avoidance is not always an option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bellavite1 View Post
    Avoidance is not always an option.
    Agreed.
    In Zimmys case he probably could have avoided the entire situation by observing and reporting and walking away.
    Which according to testimony is what he did, only to have Martin step out from behind a bush and escalate the situation. At that point avoidance is not an option.
    If testimonies are true I feel Zimmerman exhibited reasonable restraint of employing his weapon until he was on his back with somebody bigger, younger and stronger than him curb bouncing his head.
    Avoidance was not an option at that point as well.

    None of us really know what happened but there are times when one can take reasonable means to avoid problems but sometimes problems come to you. Then you cannot avoid the shit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bellavite1 View Post
    Avoidance is not always an option.
    That's why I train as a sprinter.
    I oil my body down and wear tear-away clothing whenever I go outside.
    It's the lizard defense, and has worked well for me so far.
    You may catch up to me, but I'll just get away again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davsel View Post
    That's why I train as a sprinter.
    I oil my body down and wear tear-away clothing whenever I go outside.
    It's the lizard defense, and has worked well for me so far.
    You may catch up to me, but I'll just get away again.
    Thanks for the visual...
    So now I have to convince myself that behind your avatar actuaslly hides an extremely hot girl that happens to like guns...
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    From: http://theconservativetreehouse.com/...eir-own-words/

    Non-blacks should just remain securely in their homes. Should they need to travel, they should drive with the windows up and doors locked while passing through the safari to avoid danger. The same mindset in The Virginia Pilot beatings - If you stop at an intersection to obey traffic laws, and if your car is attacked with bricks, stay inside keep the doors locked and drive away quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davsel View Post
    That's why I train as a sprinter.
    I oil my body down and wear tear-away clothing whenever I go outside.
    It's the lizard defense, and has worked well for me so far.
    You may catch up to me, but I'll just get away again.
    Thanks for that- now I have to go dump 1/2 a bottle of bleach into my eyes to burn that mental image away.
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