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    And so it begins.

    From: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/mich-...nefits-blocked

    In his 51-page opinion, Lawson cited this week's decision by the U.S. Supreme Court that struck down a portion of a federal law that barred certain benefits to married same-sex couples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    Now you're just confusing me... you stated that two men getting married to each other is ridiculous, now you're saying homosexuality is natural? And repulsion to it is as well? Can you clarify, because that doesn't really make a whole lot of sense.
    I think marriage should be between a man and a women. There are societal reasons why marriage has been exclusive in most cultures throughout history, I believe in that exclusivity. I also believe that traditional marriage IS the gold standard and should not be devalued with nontraditional derivations. I do not support the aggressive gay agenda. I resist it, it is a sign of a dying culture IMHO. Regressive, not progressive at al ironically. Marriage is for building families, families for building nations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    Now you're just confusing me... you stated that two men getting married to each other is ridiculous, now you're saying homosexuality is natural? And repulsion to it is as well? Can you clarify, because that doesn't really make a whole lot of sense.
    I think he's saying that homosexuality is a normal thing, but it's also normal for people to be turned off by it.

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    Gay folks deserve to be just as miserable as us straight folks. They're gonna have to deal with divorce like everyone else too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RblDiver View Post
    I think he's saying that homosexuality is a normal thing, but it's also normal for people to be turned off by it.
    This. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hghclsswhitetrsh View Post
    Gay folks deserve to be just as miserable as us straight folks. They're gonna have to deal with divorce like everyone else too.
    So do polygamists also have this right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jumpstart View Post
    So do polygamists also have this right?
    Sure. None of my fucking business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jumpstart View Post
    I think marriage should be between a man and a women. There are societal reasons why marriage has been exclusive in most cultures throughout history, I believe in that exclusivity. I also believe that traditional marriage IS the gold standard and should not be devalued with nontraditional derivations. I do not support the aggressive gay agenda. I resist it, it is a sign of a dying culture IMHO. Regressive, not progressive at al ironically. Marriage is for building families, families for building nations.
    I used to think that way, but how does amending what a marriage is to some people decay or devalue a culture or society? I agree that they're going about it too aggressively, perhaps even disrespectfully (again back to my bullying comments with the gay rights/civil rights argument). But I do not vehemently oppose their desire for equality in terms of federal and state benefits- especially since civil unions do not grant the same rights and treatment as marriage. So traditionally marriage is defined as between a man and woman. Well traditionally defeated enemies in war were regarded as property. Traditions can change, and not always for the degradation of society or morals. You're also insinuating that a same-sex couple cannot build and raise a family. By that logic (I'm assuming you mean because they cannot naturally conceive a child) then sterile straight couples are also regressive. Just applying the same logic. And by the way, the popular opinion of the world (yes, I said world) is that homosexuality is not deviant nor regressive to society or the family unit. There are differing opinions out there, and just because you and a bunch of other people think homosexuality is wrong or whatever your thoughts may be, there is a number of people who have an opposite opinion to yours- ie: my uncle wouldn't agree with your thoughts of what a marriage "should be"- unfortunately he isn't alive today to defend his "gay agenda" position.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hghclsswhitetrsh View Post
    Sure. None of my fucking business.
    Well apparently it is, because here you are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jumpstart View Post
    Well apparently it is, because here you are.
    Does this bother you because of religious beliefs?

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