Background checks and trading

[SA Friday]

I doubt that any distributor is going to accept these firearms back. What I am sure will end up happening is that Sportsman's (and all other large chain stores) will send their "CO-illegal" guns to their stores in other states.

A couple of the manufacturers are swapping mags. S&W is swapping all mags no longer legal for compliant mags. Someone else was too, but I cant remember who it was. Other manufacturers are doing nothing. Stock that can't be swapped out will be sold to other FFLs out of state. At least that's how the store I work for is doing it.

[cysoto]

A couple of the manufacturers are swapping mags. S&W is swapping all mags no longer legal for compliant mags. Someone else was too, but I cant remember who it was. Other manufacturers are doing nothing. Stock that can't be swapped out will be sold to other FFLs out of state. At least that's how the store I work for is doing it.

A few of the manufacturers have agreed to swap us mags too but the distributors were a "no-go." The only issue is that some of them don't have enough 10 rounders to swap for all the dealers here Colorado so we may need to wait a few weeks/months to get them.

[Dave]

A few of the manufacturers have agreed to swap us mags too but the distributors were a "no-go." The only issue is that some of them don't have enough 10 rounders to swap for all the dealers here Colorado so we may need to wait a few weeks/months to get them.

Oh joy, another black rifle shortage. This one caused by a lack of 10 round mags. Now if I could only find where I lost mine at.

[jerrymrc]

I think the bottom line is there will be no private sales because no FFL will do them. I read where the CBI added 12 people to handle the "rush" of background checks between private parties.

So after 2-3 months of nothing will they go Hmmmmm? and realize that they made a law that has no impact because nobody is using it or can't use it? Or will they think that suddenly there goals are achieved because with no background checks being done for private parties that no guns are being sold.....

[TFOGGER]

I know that I will not be buying or selling anything that would be covered by this law, at least until the lawsuit runs its course. I think it fairly likely that the sheriffs will be successful in obtaining a preliminary injunction to prevent implementation on this and the mag ban while the suit is in litigation.

[jerrymrc]

SAF has already pointed out that its all about the wording. It'll still be a $10 transfer fee, but then there will be a $25 "admin" fee, or a $15 "secure records" fee or some such.

Just like the Cali guys figured out a way around the named rifles ban, FFLs here will figure out a way around the fee structure.

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When a fudd finds out that if the buyer does not pass the background check and has to pay $45 to get his shotgun back how many will be willing to sell?

[battle_sight_zero]

So, you just know there will be damn few FFL dealers who will agree to screw around with these transfers if $10 is actually the maximum they can charge per 18-12-112(2)(d) for their transfer service. Surely some of our FFL holders will jump on here with a comment or two!
Before this law goes into effect, dealers have been able to charge a maximum of $10 for BG checks while at a gun show..

Well some dealers are going to be making some killings on consignments.

[james_bond_007]

The $10 fee is for the Background Check through CBI, the FFL dealers can charge a Tranfer fee as they wish. I have had a dealer already do this to me, $10 for the Background check, plus 2X $25 Tranfer fees for 2 items and this was for a receiving FFL.
I am sure they will increase this transfer fee for the hassle of a person to person sale.

What he said ^^^^

[james_bond_007]

It sounds like, a private sale of a C&R item to a C&R holder OR a non-C&R holder should not require a CBI BGC, per HB1229 aka 18-12-112

HB1229 aka 18-12-112
(6)THE PROVISIONS OF THIS SECTION DO NOT APPLY TO
(a)A TRANSFER OF AN ANTIQUE FIREARM, AS DEFINED IN 18U.S. SEC 921(a)(16), AS AMENDED,OR A CURIO OR RELIC,AS DEFINED IN 27 CFR478.11,AS AMENDED

So M1 Garands, M1 Carbines, etc. , are still OK to do FTF and without a CBI BGC.


Do you guys read it this way ?

[Great-Kazoo]

SAF has already pointed out that its all about the wording. It'll still be a $10 transfer fee, but then there will be a $25 "admin" fee, or a $15 "secure records" fee or some such.

Just like the Cali guys figured out a way around the named rifles ban, FFLs here will figure out a way around the fee structure.

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Or not do a transfer, because they have the same item in inventory.