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    It sounds like, a private sale of a C&R item to a C&R holder OR a non-C&R holder should not require a CBI BGC, per HB1229 aka 18-12-112

    HB1229 aka 18-12-112
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    THE PROVISIONS OF THIS SECTION DO NOT APPLY TO
    (a)A TRANSFER OF AN ANTIQUE FIREARM, AS DEFINED IN 18U.S. SEC 921(a)(16), AS AMENDED,OR A CURIO OR RELIC,AS DEFINED IN 27 CFR478.11,AS AMENDED
    So M1 Garands, M1 Carbines, etc. , are still OK to do FTF and without a CBI BGC.


    Do you guys read it this way ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by james_bond_007 View Post
    It sounds like, a private sale of a C&R item to a C&R holder OR a non-C&R holder should not require a CBI BGC, per HB1229 aka 18-12-112



    So M1 Garands, M1 Carbines, etc. , are still OK to do FTF and without a CBI BGC.


    Do you guys read it this way ?
    I'd like to know the answer to this as well!
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    Quote Originally Posted by james_bond_007 View Post
    It sounds like, a private sale of a C&R item to a C&R holder OR a non-C&R holder should not require a CBI BGC, per HB1229 aka 18-12-112



    So M1 Garands, M1 Carbines, etc. , are still OK to do FTF and without a CBI BGC.


    Do you guys read it this way ?
    If you are correct I see a big market in Maks, CZ52's, 82's and the tokes. I can see the armslist ad now.

    C&R CZ52 for sale. NO background check required. Semi-Auto that defeats L3 body armor........

    I am kinda glad the gang bangers never figured this out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jerrymrc View Post
    If you are correct I see a big market in Maks, CZ52's, 82's and the tokes. I can see the armslist ad now.

    C&R CZ52 for sale. NO background check required. Semi-Auto that defeats L3 body armor........

    I am kinda glad the gang bangers never figured this out.
    Let me make sure the language is still in the LAST amended HB1229. I'll post a link and see if you see what I see ...
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    Can 15+ round mags be shipped/sold out of state?

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    http://www.leg.state.co.us/clics/cli...e=1229_enr.pdf

    This is the link I used. It showed all versions of the bill. I believe I referenced the final version.

    Jerrymrc, I'd appreciate your opinion, as you and I have had "C&R" discussions before.

    As I see it :
    1) Colorado law previously allowed intrastate FTF transfers b/w Colorado residents w/o a BGC for all (please apply "all" in a reasonable context) firearms.
    2) HB 1229 now requires a BGC for all FTF transfers between Colorado residents, but exempts antiques and C&R items from said BGC.
    3) I see no language that requires the transferee or transferor to be a C&R/FFL03 holder...just the exemption for firearm category.
    Further...
    4) Federal law should continue to allow a Colorado C&R holder to receive an interstate transfer of a C&R item without a BGC due to this exemption.

    This post is my opinion, and does not constitute legal advise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by james_bond_007 View Post
    http://www.leg.state.co.us/clics/cli...e=1229_enr.pdf

    This is the link I used. It showed all versions of the bill. I believe I referenced the final version.

    Jerrymrc, I'd appreciate your opinion, as you and I have had "C&R" discussions before.

    As I see it :
    1) Colorado law previously allowed intrastate FTF transfers b/w Colorado residents w/o a BGC for all (please apply "all" in a reasonable context) firearms.
    2) HB 1229 now requires a BGC for all FTF transfers between Colorado residents, but exempts antiques and C&R items from said BGC.
    3) I see no language that requires the transferee or transferor to be a C&R/FFL03 holder...just the exemption for firearm category.
    Further...
    4) Federal law should continue to allow a Colorado C&R holder to receive an interstate transfer of a C&R item without a BGC due to this exemption.

    This post is my opinion, and does not constitute legal advise.
    I looked myself and I think if one had shown them all the C&R's one can get to include SKS's they would not have left that. Of course now the burden of proving it is a C&R falls on the seller because except for the LEO's that have a clue I know that if one were to try and sell one without a background check... Well you get the idea. They kind of shot themselves in the foot because they think "Curio & Relic" means some old 03 Springfield. Jokes on them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jerrymrc View Post
    I looked myself and I think if one had shown them all the C&R's one can get to include SKS's they would not have left that. Of course now the burden of proving it is a C&R falls on the seller because except for the LEO's that have a clue I know that if one were to try and sell one without a background check... Well you get the idea. They kind of shot themselves in the foot because they think "Curio & Relic" means some old 03 Springfield. Jokes on them.
    So you interpreted it just like I interpreted it ? Correct ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by james_bond_007 View Post
    So you interpreted it just like I interpreted it ? Correct ?
    Yes.
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