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    Look, I am anti-drunk driving. But I am unconditionally against restricting rights of law abiding citizens to catch a few more criminals. Hell, I am against it for catching a whole bunch more criminals.

    Breaking the law is one thing, but this country stands for rights, and process (or at least it used to). We have always understood that the rights and principals we hold dear are more important that the needs of the one or the few.

    I want people who are drunk driving caught, but not at the loss of our rights and process. I feel for your loss, and I can read between the lines what happened there. But I cannot succumb to that reasoning in good faith. I am by no means saying we should be soft on drunk drivers. I am just saying that losing our entire system and right to process is a far bigger loss than missing a conviction on such a crime.

    I wonder how many people voted out our rights, here in Colorado and across the country recently exactly because of what you write here. Sure, YOU may want to give up guns for this reason. But is that really a reason that we should throw out the 2nd amendment, generations of tradition and something that this country was explicitly founded upon? For every person, man woman and child for the rest of eternity? I find it astonishing that you cannot link your reasoning to give up rights and process here similar at worst to the thoughts presented by the anti-gun agenda in the recent elections. Or perhaps you can, as you have slightly hinted to, and just don't care.

    Two quotes that I think are perfectly fitting here:

    1. "I would rather be a victim than a subject" --J
    2. "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -- Benjamin Franklin

    Jeebus, am I the only one seeing this link here?
    Last edited by J; 07-01-2013 at 21:25.
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