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    Glad to see some rational thought in here and open-mindedness. Due process IS done in these situations. A breathalyzer is NOT done unless Probable Cause already exists to ask for a chemical test (breath or blood). It already exists to "force" mandatory draws on felony DUI's. The due process lies with the fact that probable cause exists for the arrest already and there is evidence, inside the body, that can and should be collected. The fact is, DUI arrests/cases have become an absolute court system circus. There are so many, and so many defense attorneys making a living on them, that EVERY minuscule detail of the crime is argued and beaten to a pulp. All this in the effort to keep people from being held accountable for making decisions that kill, as mentioned in the video, more American's than military conflicts and gun violence. It has become an absolute joke. So I say, good for any law enforcement entity that can find a way to make accountability more effective. Slaps on the wrist and absurd defense attorneys are the reason DUI related deaths are still an epidemic....NO accountability or consequences.

    As for the strapping down in ALL cases, that doesn't show common sense. However, for people to be so horrified by it is ridiculous. This happens all the time, just usually in a hospital bed in four-point restraints rather than in a cell. Just a matter of the location shouldn't freak people out, but it does.

    The only heartburn I had with this thread is that the OP labeled the recovery of evidence in a crime, by a search warrant, as "Amerika the Police State". If you want to get technical, the evidence in the crime of a DUI for which probable cause existed for a arrest, is coursing through the veins of the DUI driver. The refusal to allow it's recovery could constitute the destruction of evidence...if you really want to get semi-philosophical. In any other case outside of a DUI, whether felony or not, would allow for a search warrant to recover ANY evidence of the crime...and also punish anyone who would tamper or destroy said evidence.

    Add one further. If a family member of yours was killed by a drunk driver...OR even a knife wielding lunatic for the sake of argument...would you not want Law Enforcement to collect ANY and ALL evidence linked to the crime to properly prosecute the case in the best interest of your family member/victim??

    Just my .02
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShelbyJK500 View Post
    Glad to see some rational thought in here and open-mindedness. Due process IS done in these situations. A breathalyzer is NOT done unless Probable Cause already exists to ask for a chemical test (breath or blood). It already exists to "force" mandatory draws on felony DUI's. The due process lies with the fact that probable cause exists for the arrest already and there is evidence, inside the body, that can and should be collected. The fact is, DUI arrests/cases have become an absolute court system circus. There are so many, and so many defense attorneys making a living on them, that EVERY minuscule detail of the crime is argued and beaten to a pulp....all in the effort to get people out of being held accountable for making decisions that kill, as mentioned in the video, more American's that military conflicts and gun violence. It has become an absolute joke. So I say, good for any law enforcement entity that can find a way to make accountability more effective. Slaps on the wrist and absurd defense attorneys are the reason DUI related deaths are still an epidemic....NO accountability or consequences.

    Your honestly OK with strapping down and head locking a compliant subject down ?

    the county that started the warrants does NOT do that and gets more convictions....
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    Quote Originally Posted by clublights View Post
    Your honestly OK with strapping down and head locking a compliant subject down ?

    the county that started the warrants does NOT do that and gets more convictions....
    Finished my thought...probably while you were typing this...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShelbyJK500 View Post
    Finished my thought...probably while you were typing this...
    Yup seems like that is how it worked out ....

    The location doesn;t bother me jail or hospital... if the person is not being combative ... there should be no need to take those kind of steps .

    feels to me the same as PIT maneuvering every car instead of bothering with the lights and siren first .

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