So - Saiga 12 round mags legal/0 issues?

[vectorsc]

Reading the exact verbiage of the law it would appear that Saiga 10 and 12 round drums are not at issue? Thoughts?

[Brian]

(2) (a) "LARGE-CAPACITY MAGAZINE MEANS:
...
(II) A FIXED, TUBULAR SHOTGUN MAGAZINE THAT HOLDS MORE THAN
TWENTY-EIGHT INCHES OF SHOTGUN SHELLS, INCLUDING ANY EXTENSION DEVICE
THATISATTACHEDTOTHEMAGAZINEANDHOLDSADDITIONAL SHOTGUNSHELLS;OR


(III) A NONTUBULAR, DETACHABLE MAGAZINE, BOX, DRUM, FEED STRIP, OR
SIMILAR DEVICE THAT IS CAPABLE OF ACCEPTING MORE THAN EIGHT SHOTGUN
SHELLS WHEN COMBINED WITH A FIXED MAGAZINE.
...

Hm - am interested in your opinion... seems it's limited to 8 shells as I read it.

[vectorsc]

I think they probably shot themselves in foot. It says in the 8 round limitation "When combined with a Fixed Magazine". Which seems to indicate, no fixed magazine, back to 15 round limit.

[james_bond_007]

Brian: NICE attention to detail in the statute !!!! You've raised some pretty good points lately. Kudos !!!!

I'll need some help from the experts on this forum with the following:

Can a "chamber" also be considered a "specialized" fixed magazine with a capacity of ONE?

A magazine is a place to store munitions or ammo, right ? Chambers can do that in addition to presenting the round for firing.

EX:
A Glock 19 with a 15 round mag can actually store/hold 16 rounds: 15 + 1.
When loaded this way, its capacity is 16 rounds.
Can one then say the capacity of the detachable+ fixed magazines is 16 rounds ?

Or better, could a good lawyer convince a jury that the above is true ?

If so, then the "...when combined with a fixed magazine" does not support the "10 and 12 round mags/drums are legal because they are not combined with a fixed magazine" position.

Note: I'm not arguing either way...just testing the bounds and hoping someone can sway the balance one way or the other.

Can anyone help us out ?

[Great-Kazoo]

Brian: NICE attention to detail in the statute !!!! You've raised some pretty good points lately. Kudos !!!!

I'll need some help from the experts on this forum with the following:

Can a "chamber" also be considered a "specialized" fixed magazine with a capacity of ONE?

A magazine is a place to store munitions or ammo, right ? Chambers can do that in addition to presenting the round for firing.

EX:
A Glock 19 with a 15 round mag can actually store/hold 16 rounds: 15 + 1.
When loaded this way, its capacity is 16 rounds.
Can one then say the capacity of the detachable+ fixed magazines is 16 rounds ?

Or better, could a good lawyer convince a jury that the above is true ?

If so, then the "...when combined with a fixed magazine" does not support the "10 and 12 round mags/drums are legal because they are not combined with a fixed magazine" position.

Note: I'm not arguing either way...just testing the bounds and hoping someone can sway the balance one way or the other.

Can anyone help us out ?

You're gonna have a stroke OVER ANALYZING. MAGAZINE IS JUST THAT, CHAMBER IS NOT A MAGAZINE. OR IT WOULD BE CALLED A MAGAZINE. IF you are that worried over interpretation use 10 round Mag's. Take a break