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    As for Jerry shooting it in a match...

    Watching Jerry on the video, knowing what the Pro Tour stages are like, seeing his splits and knowing him a bit, i "think" he would want a few thousand rounds downrange and the difference would have to be at least a second on a 12 second, 20 round course before he considered it, Since the last Pro Tour event is towards the end of the season and then the $50K payoff is in Vegas, considering his age and the many times he has said he does not know how many more years he can keep up the schedule, he might actually do it. The barrels have been getting shorter and more violent in recoil on the Pro Tour. He may have landed on something that will give him an edge. If he thinks so, that trigger is getting a workout and I'll be he can go sub 0.10 splits with a tuned trigger. That had to be one of the flatest recoiling short barrel configs i have ever seen and i could see Jerry was surprised and excited about it.

    Jerry is of course sponsored by S&W, so he would not just do it on a hunch. The timer would have to prove out. All that said, and knowing many of the other Pro Tour competitors, if he went into the last match and got a top 5 finish, that would pretty much guarantee that he stays in the top half of the 30 man Vegas ladder. He is currently 14th and there are 6 guys with only 2 matches, 3 or 4 of whom will move past Jerry pushing him to the bottom half of the bracket. He has to do something to stay in the top half. Showing up with a Tavor and crushing the bracket will cause a lot of consternation and it might make a few guys trip up. This all could be a clever rope-a-dope by the crafty veteran as well.

    As for the bull-pup/sniper/long range issues, some of you get it, some of you are talking apples and oranges...

    The short rifle requires Jerry to pull his support hand IN which reduces the stability and ability to hit WITH speed at distance. There is a crossover point, and Jerry just thinks it is at about 200 yards. Feel free to disagree, but when you get to the level Jerry is, the speed most mere mortals have pushes the equipment demands well beyond where the average guy can even tell the difference. Also getting a bi-pod out far is another speed vs. stability issue. A bolt gun, prone, not even close to the speed at which Jerry needs to hit to stay in the hunt for wins.

    Nothing to do with sight radius as Jerry only shoot ARs with optics or red dots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkCO View Post
    As for Jerry shooting it in a match...

    Watching Jerry on the video, knowing what the Pro Tour stages are like, seeing his splits and knowing him a bit, i "think" he would want a few thousand rounds downrange and the difference would have to be at least a second on a 12 second, 20 round course before he considered it, Since the last Pro Tour event is towards the end of the season and then the $50K payoff is in Vegas, considering his age and the many times he has said he does not know how many more years he can keep up the schedule, he might actually do it. The barrels have been getting shorter and more violent in recoil on the Pro Tour. He may have landed on something that will give him an edge. If he thinks so, that trigger is getting a workout and I'll be he can go sub 0.10 splits with a tuned trigger. That had to be one of the flatest recoiling short barrel configs i have ever seen and i could see Jerry was surprised and excited about it.

    Jerry is of course sponsored by S&W, so he would not just do it on a hunch. The timer would have to prove out. All that said, and knowing many of the other Pro Tour competitors, if he went into the last match and got a top 5 finish, that would pretty much guarantee that he stays in the top half of the 30 man Vegas ladder. He is currently 14th and there are 6 guys with only 2 matches, 3 or 4 of whom will move past Jerry pushing him to the bottom half of the bracket. He has to do something to stay in the top half. Showing up with a Tavor and crushing the bracket will cause a lot of consternation and it might make a few guys trip up. This all could be a clever rope-a-dope by the crafty veteran as well.
    Interesting analysis, thanks!

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    you think a longer rifle is better suited for distance due to muzzle movements? i think the complete opposite. now if you are talking a 20 inch versus a 16 inch then fine, but a 16 inch versus a 16 inch you want that barrel in closer to the shoulder and very close muzzle to the stability hand. its much easier to control a muzzle that the blast is right next to where you are holding versus one that is 12 inches in front of the hand.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gman View Post
    No, the short overall length makes it pivot very easily in close work. This short overall length also applies to distance shooting as a longer weapon is easier to control muzzle movements which should help with longer distance accuracy.

    Shorter guns are more suited to CQB and longer rifles are more suited to distance accuracy for some reason. ;-)

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    Got mine today. Trigger wasn't any worse than any other bullpup. Nice and accurate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WETWRKS View Post
    Got mine today. Trigger wasn't any worse than any other bullpup. Nice and accurate.

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