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    Quote Originally Posted by tmckay2 View Post
    the idea that pasteurization destroys nutrients has been debunked, but for some reason some people perpetuate that myth. in things like orange juice it can decrease the vitamin C content slightly, but it is insignificant. its kind of like the people that say immunizations cause diseases and all this mumbo jumbo. it has been investigated by many sources many times and is completely untrue. some so called "nutritionists" will say pasteurization destroys nutrients but there is no evidence of this.
    I'm curious as to where you have read this. Everything I have read says that most pasteurization happens at 160-180 degrees, which, is at a lot higher temperature than the breaking point of almost all enzymes (118 degrees), and a lot of vitamins, and nutrients. I've read a lot of random blogs, and, private sites, posts about how people "know" that pasteurizing doesn't harm anything, but have never actually read any facts on the issue, just one opinion after another. If you could, PM me what you have seen, so I can read it for myself, so if I'm wrong, I can change what I tell people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by missionxo View Post
    Hey Jer could you tell me what you take in per day juice / water. What types of juices and how much. Thanks you have inspired me to get healthy.
    I know you asked Jer, but I will tell you what I did, as supplemental information for you.

    I made one gallon of juice in the morning, for the entire day. I have put what I used for my juice somewhere in this thread already (I think it's a couple pages back). I also drank a lot of water.
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    Quick day 11 update after my bad news day 10 update:

    I'm down 2.8lbs from yesterday which supports my theory 100%. The funny thing is it's almost exact since I had settled in to losing 1.4lbs per day pretty regularly so if I was going to guess at my loss for today I would have set it at 2.8lbs. Spot on! This means that even the 'low sodium' V8 juice isn't fit for a juice fast. It's too high salt content which means that your body will retain water and it will skew the weight numbers. Keeping hydrated is important while doing this juice fast so the last thing you want is a bunch of added sodium in your system. 18.0lbs so far and should be cracking the 20lb mark by the weekend. I can't wait to see the 260's on the scale!

    Quote Originally Posted by blacklabel View Post
    Day 3

    Starting Weight: 293.5
    Previous Weight: 289.5
    Current Weight: 288.0

    I expected the V8 that I had yesterday to slow down my progress but it apparently didn't. My only problem so far has been some mild hunger which is really my fault. I need to juice once more a day and that problem would go away.

    My energy levels have been normal to better than normal and I've felt good overall.

    I've stuck to the Mean Green recipe with the addition of half a jalapeƱo for a very, very mild kick but it's changed up the flavor enough that I won't get tired of this recipe. I've thought about changing up my juice but a lot of what I see is more fruit based and I'd prefer to stay away from the sugar.
    I'll borrow your format & add a couple of lines:

    Starting Weight: 290.8
    Previous Weight: 275.4
    Current Weight: 272.8
    Lost since last: 2.6
    Total Weight lost: 18.0

    Based on my experience I would say to stay away from V8. Too much sodium and I think your results will be better w/o that stuff.

    Good tip on adding a jalapeno to the Mean Green juice. I love spicy things and I've found that serrano peppers have a great flavor in veggie juices. I also did the same thing at the beginning and wasn't drinking enough juice. I came to the realization that being greedy with the juice I took in wasn't a wise move since it's ALL I was taking in. It's hard to get out of the mindset that you want to limit what you take in which is what you try to apply to regular food when you're eating. When you're body is telling you it's hungry give it juice regardless of how much you've had to that point in the day.

    Quote Originally Posted by missionxo View Post
    Hey Jer could you tell me what you take in per day juice / water. What types of juices and how much. Thanks you have inspired me to get healthy.
    Like I said before, I think I've read the guidelines are 6-8 8oz or 4-6 10-12oz drinks per day. I honestly am not sure how much I'm taking in but I'm sure it's around those figures. The best thing I can say is to listen to your body as it will tell you when to drink more juice. I drink water all day and when I start to feel hungry I drink juice. Sometimes I just drink juice even if I don't quite feel hungry yet but it's been a while since I did last. You're body will tell you when it's hungry and if you're hungry make sure you drink juice. Don't deny your body vitamins or nutrients because of some guidelines you read online. I'm proof that you don't need to starve your body of nutrients & vitamins to lose weight. To get started I literally stopped at Walmart and bought 1 or 2 of every flavor Bolthouse Farms juice that they carried save for the coffee one and the protein one. I'm still not sure if drinking that juice with the protein in it is a good idea for this juice fast. My uneducated guess is you don't want to introduce that much protein for this fast. Most of the juices have some protein and I'm guessing that's about the limit of what you want in your system. Then, I had a couple decent meals on Sunday (Sushi & then a brisket sandwich from Serious Texas BBQ) and Monday morning it was weighing myself after I woke up and nothing but water and juice. Weigh yourself at the same time each day and morning is best since it will have the fewest variables in play. You might drink different amounts of fluid each day but in the morning those variables are all ruled out. Be sure to post your results and ask any questions you might have.

    Quote Originally Posted by spyder View Post
    I know you asked Jer, but I will tell you what I did, as supplemental information for you.

    I made one gallon of juice in the morning, for the entire day. I have put what I used for my juice somewhere in this thread already (I think it's a couple pages back). I also drank a lot of water.
    I just got a juicer so plan to start making more of my own juices. I'm not sure I want to make a gallon at a time so I may try to create some recipes for single or double servings. What I've read says that as soon as you cut a vegetable the nutrients and vitamins start breaking down. Blending or juicing exposes more of the veggie to air and speeds up this process so I want to wait to juice until I'm going to drink it whenever possible to get the max nutrients. Now, if you are on the go all day his method of juicing an entire gallon may be the easiest for you. I also will see how much I like cleaning out my juicer every stinking time I make juice and may switch that to making larger batches too. I posted a few recipes too and if you search you will find them. I made one and reviewed it and plan to make some of the others today once I get some more tomatoes. I may have to make Spyder's Skittles juice in the meantime since I have all the ingredients for that one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Fwd View Post
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    Fawwwwk! That would damn sure do a lot to relieve my misery! In 2 weeks I could feel a helluva lot better, in 2 months - who knows! I've got to get rolling on this. Weighed in at 323 this morning. Didn't know they could stack shit that high.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spyder View Post
    I know you asked Jer, but I will tell you what I did, as supplemental information for you.

    I made one gallon of juice in the morning, for the entire day. I have put what I used for my juice somewhere in this thread already (I think it's a couple pages back). I also drank a lot of water.
    Thanks for the info........I will post my progress as well ...good luck to the rest of you!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Fwd View Post
    Day 5 -9lb
    Nice man! Keep it up!!

    Quote Originally Posted by rondog View Post
    Fawwwwk! That would damn sure do a lot to relieve my misery! In 2 weeks I could feel a helluva lot better, in 2 months - who knows! I've got to get rolling on this. Weighed in at 323 this morning. Didn't know they could stack shit that high.
    Like Nike says: JUST DO IT!

    Seriously man, you just need to hit the store and get a bunch of juices and start now. Figure the rest out later as you go. That's exactly what I did and now I've got a juicer and I'm big time! lol

    I saw that you posted on another juice thread last year and still haven't started. I'm trying to call you out in a good way. You just need to go for it because you will be healthier tomorrow if you start today. The only catch is you HAVE to start. The next day you will be even healthier than the previous and so on. The Bolthouse Farms juices are only $3.48 each at Walmart and they have like a dozen flavors. Get them all (except for the coffee and protein ones) even if you're not sure you will like it and stop eating food. You will find that the ones you didn't think you would like become your favorite after a couple of days. I thought the Carrot one tasted like hot dirt but now I love it since it's a break from the sweet juices. You need to stop putting it off and just do it man. It starts today. I can't wait to see your results!
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    I'm drinking somewhere between 48 and 64oz of juice per day and about 100oz of water. It's really true that just listening to your body and drinking juice when you're hungry is key. I get hungry, take a drink of juice and the hunger goes away.

    It also takes me 30 to 45 minutes to drink 20oz of juice. I nurse that stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blacklabel View Post
    I'm drinking somewhere between 48 and 64oz of juice per day and about 100oz of water. It's really true that just listening to your body and drinking juice when you're hungry is key. I get hungry, take a drink of juice and the hunger goes away.

    It also takes me 30 to 45 minutes to drink 20oz of juice. I nurse that stuff.
    There you go. It's difficult to explain but once you start you'll see... you're body does tell you when it's time for juice and you won't miss it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jer View Post
    Nice man! Keep it up!!



    Like Nike says: JUST DO IT!

    Seriously man, you just need to hit the store and get a bunch of juices and start now. Figure the rest out later as you go. That's exactly what I did and now I've got a juicer and I'm big time! lol

    I saw that you posted on another juice thread last year and still haven't started. I'm trying to call you out in a good way. You just need to go for it because you will be healthier tomorrow if you start today. The only catch is you HAVE to start. The next day you will be even healthier than the previous and so on. The Bolthouse Farms juices are only $3.48 each at Walmart and they have like a dozen flavors. Get them all (except for the coffee and protein ones) even if you're not sure you will like it and stop eating food. You will find that the ones you didn't think you would like become your favorite after a couple of days. I thought the Carrot one tasted like hot dirt but now I love it since it's a break from the sweet juices. You need to stop putting it off and just do it man. It starts today. I can't wait to see your results!
    Did you miss my post a few back (#170)? I went to a Goodwill store and found a Jack Lalanne Power Juicer for $27.53. It cleaned up great and appears to run fine, so I'm over the first hurdle. A start anyway. My wife is the next hurdle, she's not going to think this is a good idea because SHE didn't come up with it! And I know she's gonna shit about the amounts of produce this will require.
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