Anyone here ever done a juice diet?

[Irving]

Jer, you keep saying that drinking just juice is not putting anything into your digestive system, and it's not true. Food goes into your stomach where it is broken down to be processed in your intestines. Solid food or not, it all ends up in your intestines for processing, and in more or less the same form. Even if you give yourself an ennema, your digestive system is still working to absorb what your body needs, and discard what it doesn't.

It sounds like you are worried that the caloric intake of ANY solid food will break some threshold and put your body into storing mode. That may be true, but it is incorrect to say that you are not using your digestive system. That would be more for an intravenious diet.

[Jer]

Day 19 juice fast check-in:


Starting Weight: 290.8
Current Weight: 267.4
Previous Weight: 267.4
Lost since yesterday: 0.0 :-(
Total Weight lost: 23.4

To say I'm frustrated by today's weigh-in would be an understatement. Especially considering I gained 0.2lbs yesterday. This made me decide to take a look at my progress that I've been tracking and I've lost only 3.0lbs this calendar week. A far cry from the pace I was on when I started which was over 10lbs per week. While I accepted the fact that this pace wouldn't continue I didn't expect it to drop off to nearly nothing. I mean, less than a half a pound per day is hardly worth denying myself food for and I'm relatively sure that introducing healthy foods in reasonable portions could attain this progress and plus I would be more able to work in exercise here and there as time presents itself. In short, I'm 10 days short of the 30 day mark and am considering breaking the fast. I may wait a few more days to see what happens but I'm not confident I'll just snap back to where I was or even close to it. I had hoped to lose around a pound per day based on the research I did and what other people in a similar situation lost. I started off really strong and since then things have really fizzled for me. I mean at this pace I would lose about ten pounds next month... hardly worth the effort. The last time this was frustrating and I wasn't going to overreact but I really haven't seen too much since then so this is indicating more of a trend than a temporary anomaly. I tried days of nothing but veggie juicing and that didn't help. I tried days of just fruit juicing and that didn't help. I tried upping my water intake and that didn't seem to help either. I'm at a loss and am currently considering if I'm going to see this through the full 60 days, cut it to 30 days or just kill it now. I don't want to give up but if I'm not getting anywhere near the progress I had expected I don't necessarily feel like I'm giving up. It has been a week after all. I just don't know at this point.

[rondog]

Patience, grasshopper. And fart carefully.

[Jer]

You missed the part where I said I went straight juice on Tuesday and still no cravings.

I did miss that, sorry. Well, I read it earlier in the day and I read the entire thing but didn't get a chance to respond. By the time I got back I think I read the first sentence to remind myself and wanted to make sure that people understood that on a juice fast you can't mix food in here and there.

Jer, you keep saying that drinking just juice is not putting anything into your digestive system, and it's not true. Food goes into your stomach where it is broken down to be processed in your intestines. Solid food or not, it all ends up in your intestines for processing, and in more or less the same form. Even if you give yourself an ennema, your digestive system is still working to absorb what your body needs, and discard what it doesn't.

It sounds like you are worried that the caloric intake of ANY solid food will break some threshold and put your body into storing mode. That may be true, but it is incorrect to say that you are not using your digestive system. That would be more for an intravenious diet.

For the purpose of this juice fast and this conversation there is a difference and it's a big difference. I'm just trying to keep the conversation informative but not too scientific or things could get boring & difficult to follow quickly. I get what you're saying but it's a different kind of digestion entirely since the juice is already in liquid form and easily assimilated by the body. In other words, as close to IV nutrients as you can get w/o the needle and nobody wants to do an IV fast diet.

[Jer]

Patience, grasshopper. And fart carefully.

Haha... I've actually been fine in that respect the whole time. I do have lots of patience but if I'm not going to be making progress it's not a question of patience. I mean, you can sit and watch the grass grow and be as patient as you want but it's not going to cut itself just based on your level of patience I guess is the point I'm trying to make. I can be patient all day long... hell even for another month at something near a pound per day but closer to 1/4lb per day doesn't seem like it's worth it IMO.

[Irving]

I bet you wouldn't say that 10 lbs in a month isn't good enough for you if you actually got there. That'd bring your total to over 30lbs down. Loosing weight is loosing weight. If you stop your diet, you'll likely stop your weight loss. Then in another month when you've gained half of your current losses back, you'll really be kicking yourself when you could have been 30 down instead of only 10 down.

Why don't you have your wife record your results every day for the next week while you close your eyes. Then you can stress out about it less. Stress isn't going to help anything.

[spyder]

hell even for another month at something near a pound per day but closer to 1/4lb per day doesn't seem like it's worth it IMO.

The original reason for Juice fasting, was not for weight loss. It was to heal. It was to give your body the best chance at healing itself. The lack of intake of calories just cuts weight. So, does it work as a great weight loss thing? Ya, without a doubt it does, but it is a way of healing first and foremost. Unless you do this for long enough for your body to "reset" itself, you will gain the weight back fast as your metabolism will not change.

I bet you wouldn't say that 10 lbs in a month isn't good enough for you if you actually got there. That'd bring your total to over 30lbs down. Loosing weight is loosing weight. If you stop your diet, you'll likely stop your weight loss. Then in another month when you've gained half of your current losses back, you'll really be kicking yourself when you could have been 30 down instead of only 10 down.

Why don't you have your wife record your results every day for the next week while you close your eyes. Then you can stress out about it less. Stress isn't going to help anything.

[Jer]

I ate a carrot... fast over.

I bet you wouldn't say that 10 lbs in a month isn't good enough for you if you actually got there. That'd bring your total to over 30lbs down. Loosing weight is loosing weight. If you stop your diet, you'll likely stop your weight loss. Then in another month when you've gained half of your current losses back, you'll really be kicking yourself when you could have been 30 down instead of only 10 down.

Why don't you have your wife record your results every day for the next week while you close your eyes. Then you can stress out about it less. Stress isn't going to help anything.

If I was dieting and exercising and still eating I would be happy with 10lbs in a month. But I'm not. I'm drinking juice and water so the expectations are different. The idea was to use this to drop a bunch of weight and rid myself of the desire for shitty food and lots of it. I've done that. I lost nearly 25lbs in a couple of weeks and the way I used to eat doesn't even sound good to me at all. I've gained the ability to resist the desire to stuff myself of shit and those are what I wanted to accomplish. The plan was to get healthier and lose a big chunk of fat and then continue losing at a slower pace through healthy eating and working out. I never had a deadline when I started, I just wanted to try it out and see how it worked. I didn't have any of the side effects others had talked about and I was losing weight so I figured why not... I'll do the 60 days I've seen others do. Well, being as the deadline was never set in stone I don't see it as a failure so much as what I accomplished and think I can take it from here now. Most of the people do like a week or two and now I can see why. There's nothing to say that I couldn't do it again someday and if I did I would likely just plan for 2 weeks. I just feel like it's gotten to a point where I think I can achieve the same progress through healthier eating and lifestyle. This also allows me the opportunity to exercise when the opportunity presents itself. While on the fast I was limiting my exercise because when I did workout it REALLY took it out of me (shortness of breath and everything) plus those days my weight loss was non-existent. I think that my body is telling me that it's time to end the fast and start introducing healthy foods and try to ramp my metabolism up.

The original reason for Juice fasting, was not for weight loss. It was to heal. It was to give your body the best chance at healing itself. The lack of intake of calories just cuts weight. So, does it work as a great weight loss thing? Ya, without a doubt it does, but it is a way of healing first and foremost. Unless you do this for long enough for your body to "reset" itself, you will gain the weight back fast as your metabolism will not change.

For me it was weight loss and getting away from food. I guess that could be healing but I don't really see all the cleanse stuff of juice fasting. I mean, if I cleansed somehow then that's an added bonus but I really just needed to get away from my poor eating habits and for me this was the easiest way. I'm giving up pop, dairy, breads and all sorts of junk I used to eat. On top of that the food that I DO eat will be smaller portions and healthier options whenever possible. Couple that with more fruit & vegetable consumption and even juicing to replace meals from time to time and I don't see how I can help to be healthier. Worst case scenario I can't control my eating and start to head down that path again and I just do a juice fast again, possibly longer until I get it right. As of right now I really feel like I've got a different outlook and for me just doing something about it to start this process was half the battle.

[hobowh]

Its not over just a speed bump along the way

[JM Ver. 2.0]

This is my new juice diet....



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