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    Quote Originally Posted by Rooskibar03 View Post
    If you want some inspiration for the juice diet check Netflix for "Fat, Sick & Nearly Dead". Documentary about an Aussie who does it and then travels the country introducing it to others.

    FWIW Atkins over 10 weeks took off 40lbs for me. Now I just eat less overall and try to maintain where I am.
    Yeah, I saw that and a few similar videos and that was my inspiration. If they can do it as bad as they were health-wise I can do it. And the longer I wait to start the harder it will be to get healthy.

    Quote Originally Posted by spyder View Post
    There have been a few threads on this already... I will kick back in though.

    I did the juice diet for a month and a half, the first month of which was completely juice... I lost 53 lbs, and it stayed off for a very long time, almost a year without gaining a pound. Those who think it is unhealthy, don't have their information correct. I was more healthy by a long shot while juicing. As long as you have fat on ya to take care of your energy needs, you will be perfectly fine. As a matter of fact, juicing is so damn good at healing people, that the government made it illegal for a medical doctor to prescribe it to you as a treatment. If you need a juicer, I have an extra "Jack Lalans" or whatever in the hell it's called that you can have. We got one from Walmart that has worked like a charm, and cost $70 (works a hell of a lot better than the $250 Jack whatever one). Juicing provides your body with absolutely everything your body needs to work, and then some, except the calories, which if you have extra weight, your body provides. There have been numerous studies and tests done on this, and if you do it right, you will be far more healthy. My wife and I originally did this because she was seeking a cure for her chronic hives (moms a doctor that tried everything and nothing worked for a year and a half), she found the movie "Fat Sick & Nearly Dead", and we decided to go for it for her sake. A week into it, she had no hives, and hasn't for almost a year. It also got rid of her heart palpitations. She did the diet for three weeks hard core, and continued with 50/50 with salads for another month, and still juices every now and then for the hell of it. I had skin cancer, now I don't. My uncle had colon cancer, now he doesn't. I can go on and on of just my family in the last year that this has helped. In doing this though, you will encounter those that have no clue as to what they're talking about, and will run their mouth's though, just wade through the crap, and you will be fine... If you have any questions, just PM me.

    Now, I wouldn't spout any of this out, if I haven't done it, and seen what "juicing" can actually do with my own eyes. Also, as a disclaimer, I'm not a vegetarian by any means (the wife is now though), Taco Bell is my favorite place in the world! K.......

    For those of you that want more info, you can watch a decent movie on it called Fat Sick & Nearly Dead.
    You can also watch a movie called "The Gerson Miracle" that is long, and full of information, but really boring... Here: http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/gerson-miracle/
    Thank you for posting this.

    I had a longer post for you but it's scattered in the couple of long posts I've mad this morning. I will absolutely take you up on the offer for that juicer and that's a very cool thing for you do and will get me off on the right track to making my own juices until I can get one of the higher end juicers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clint45 View Post
    If you're going to do this, do it right . . . get a juicer. Until then, at least use a blender for smoothies . . . Bolthouse Farms is a mediocre product, it's not bad, but you don't want to try living off it. Like spyder said, bee pollen is a great supplement, and whey or egg protein powder can work too. Egg beaters and vegetable soup can be added to your diet as well as juice.
    Yeah, I understand that Bolthouse Farms isn't the most ideal way to go about this but I'm doing it and it's working. I will tweak when I can but waiting until I got a juicer and all this other jazz was just another excuse. July 1st was the date it was going down and if that meant cutting my lawn and grinding it up with power tools in the garage then so be it. Buying juice is just easier and tastier.

    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    Can you do this juice diet with meat being the only other food you eat? Or does that ruin the point of the diet? I get shaky if I don't have protein.
    I don't have the answer for this but I think the answer is no. I think the idea of doing this is to go all in as little things here and there can change the way the process is supposed to work.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Fwd View Post
    Imma try this.
    Do your research and give it a shot. Just make sure it's for you and not because it seemed like the thing to do because I've had good results so far. I don't think this is for everyone but I feel like most Americans could probably benefit from this.

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveGoBang! View Post
    I do a 5-10 day detox every couple of months depending on my travel schedule. The key is to cut out caffeine, nicotine, alcohol, and all the other bad shit you get from eating regular processed foods. I go all organic fruits and veggies, and yes you have to juice them yourself. I lose a couple of pounds, but unless I am exercising regularly it usually comes back after resuming a solid food diet. I think the mistake people make is thinking of it as a diet, that will get them into a smaller pair of jeans, which it can, if you are aggressive, but you generally gain most of the wait back. I just view it as a time to clean my body, colon, build my immune system, etc. But to each their own, there are a million strategies out there, probably something that works for you.
    None of those things save for caffeine were an issue. I do own a Sodastream so making soda at home made things easy. Too easy. While they're healthier than full sugar and caffeine pop they're still drinking crap... just at lower doses. I didn't have any headaches or anything though so I really don't think I drank much but I never needed it (caffeine) anyway so for me it was just for flavor. I don't need caffeine to start my day like some. The plan is to introduce healthier foods into my diet when the time comes and also add some sort of cardio to not only maintain but hopefully improve on overall health.
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    Jer (and anybody else), check out www.utopiasilver.com , they have some great liquid products that would go great in juices. Vitamin and mineral products, colloidal silver and gold, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    What if you only need to lose 20lbs?
    I'm not an expert but to give you an idea... my plan is to lose 60lbs in 60 days which would get my to 230lbs. At that point, I feel like I could lose the additional 15-20lbs my body would truly need to lose for long-term health of joints and such. So, I'm using this to get the point you're at based on what you're saying. I'm not saying you can't do it but maybe a simple change in diet and exercise would be the better way to go about things. I know if I had 20lbs to lose I wouldn't be doing this but I don't and I clearly have a problem that has manifested into what I am over the last decade or so. That's my unprofessional opinion not knowing any more about your situation though.

    Quote Originally Posted by blacklabel View Post
    It looks like I'm getting a juicer. I've watched Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead before and the wife and I are watching it again now. Time to make a change.
    Good for you! If it's juicing or not just taking that stand that enough is enough and it's time to change is awesome!

    Quote Originally Posted by rondog View Post
    Reading this with interest! I need to print this thread out and study it. I'm about 150lbs. overweight and really sick of hauling it around. I think of it as having three (!) 50lb. bags of Quikcrete mix attached to me all the time. Every move I make, all that Quikcrete goes with me. It's really quite depressing and demoralizing.
    Well, I've given you more to study this morning. lol

    Honestly, jump on YouTube and search for juice diet and juice fast and watch the videos. Plenty of people who started blogging day 1 and posting up videos all the way to the end so you get to see the highs, the lows and more importantly the progress. Seeing them do it with your own eyes makes it easier to do it yourself. They also all tend to start eating healthy afterwards and post up videos about their new lifestyle which helps to give you a course of action once it's all done so you don't just go back to what you did before after a few days. It sounds like you're in a similar boat to me and I can tell you that I feel like this has been one of the better decisions I've ever made. Time will tell but I know exactly what you mean about how depressing it is. I'm a very jovial person by nature but no matter how happy I am it's hard to escape that fact that I'm fat. I mean, I'm almost carrying my wife on my back with me everywhere I go. And it's not just where you go but when you sit down it's sort of all around you... organs and all. Just not healthy man.

    Quote Originally Posted by hurley842002 View Post
    I had a huge in depth response typed out, and somehow this POS tapatalk erased it. I may still type it out later (headed to the gym now lol).

    Part of the response was good on you Jer, for doing what YOU need to do, to become healthier. I know what works for me, but what works for me, may not work for others. Good luck man, and stay focused!
    Thanks man. I really don't want this to seem like I'm saying this is the best idea for everyone and everyone should rush out and do it but for some... I believe it's a means to an end and I feel like I'm sadly now in that group. I feel like I was on the doorstep of some serious health complications if I continued down the path I was on and I decided I didn't want to wait for something bad to happen to force my hand. You don't always get a second chance after all.
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    Seems like juice diet is working great.

    I am planning to do 1 meal juice diet for now.
    I think juice diet for summer might work out for me. I will just use regular blender for now. I am planning to do 1 meal juice diet as a start.
    Glad we have banana and strawberry



    Originally Posted by Rooskibar03If you want some inspiration for the juice diet check Netflix for "Fat, Sick & Nearly Dead". Documentary about an Aussie who does it and then travels the country introducing it to others.


    FWIW Atkins over 10 weeks took off 40lbs for me. Now I just eat less overall and try to maintain where I am.

    When Akins were popular 12 years ago, I was on an Atkins diet. Worked out great. Moderate exercise and Atkins worked out great.
    The downside was, I was suffering from Gout from Atkins. About 18 month after I stopped Atkins, gout went bye bye.
    Haven't had one since 2004ish, but I still keep my First Gout Kit just in case.
    I told myself I would rather be super overweight than have one gout.

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    Also, for everyone.... If you want a juicer, you don't need one of the really expensive one's like the one Joe had of FS&ND. We looked at consumer reports, and literally the third best one a year ago was one that you can order from Walmart: http://www.walmart.com/ip/Hamilton-B...67650/14320925
    The one I showed was literally third on the list... We used it non stop for a month and a half, almost two months (literally it was going almost every hour cause the wife is picky and has to have a bunch of different juice types). It is still going strong, and kicked the shit out of our "Jack LaLanne" thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrPrena View Post
    Seems like juice diet is working great.

    I am planning to do 1 meal juice diet for now.
    I think juice diet for summer might work out for me. I will just use regular blender for now. I am planning to do 1 meal juice diet as a start.
    Glad we have banana and strawberry

    When Akins were popular 12 years ago, I was on an Atkins diet. Worked out great. Moderate exercise and Atkins worked out great.
    The downside was, I was suffering from Gout from Atkins. About 18 month after I stopped Atkins, gout went bye bye.
    Haven't had one since 2004ish, but I still keep my First Gout Kit just in case.
    I told myself I would rather be super overweight than have one gout.
    I refused to do the Atkins diet when it was all the rage for a couple of reasons 1) I was in better shape back then so it would have been more for vanity reasons which I couldn't justify and 2) after the research I did it just seemed like it wasn't a good idea. I know that may seem hypocritical because of what I'm currently doing but based on my research a juice diet is quite a bit healthier than the Atkins diet. Anything that says 'eat as much bacon as you want to get healthy' just doesn't seem like a wise idea to me.

    Quote Originally Posted by spyder View Post
    Also, for everyone.... If you want a juicer, you don't need one of the really expensive one's like the one Joe had of FS&ND. We looked at consumer reports, and literally the third best one a year ago was one that you can order from Walmart: http://www.walmart.com/ip/Hamilton-B...67650/14320925
    The one I showed was literally third on the list... We used it non stop for a month and a half, almost two months (literally it was going almost every hour cause the wife is picky and has to have a bunch of different juice types). It is still going strong, and kicked the shit out of our "Jack LaLanne" thing.
    Yeah, I know I don't need a super expensive one but it seems that the more expensive ones can do some things that the other ones don't and seem to last longer too while doing those things. I wanted a LaLane for years and never bought one because it was an addition to my current diet... one that I felt would get as much use given how much crap I ate anyway. Now that it's going to become a large staple in my diet I need to get something. If you're still willing to hook me up with the one you're not using I'll gladly Paypal you money to cover shipping.
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    Any comment on the cost of this diet? Seems like blending fresh fruit every day would get expensive?
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    Also, if you want the best of the weight loss, do not eat anything. Literally, if you have to chew it, don't do it. You can get spirulina, and bee pollen which are the only two additives you need that will supply the rest of the nutrients your body needs that the vegetables don't. You can get both at the Natural Grocers, or the Vitamin Cottage. < Also good stores to pick up free range, all natural beef I found...

    Stuving, you're too skinny to do just juice for a long period... You could do it for a week, maybe two........ Nothing past that. I think two might be stretching it. You can throw in some actual food at the end of the first week. You should still lose some weight, but don't push it.

    If you do just juice, and nothing else, you will loose (between friends that I had do this at the college with me, and myself) between 1 pound, to three a day. The other key to it, is to stay hydrated. Without water, your body won't function right, and you might as well just piss the whole experience away. Really, drink shit loads of water.

    The one friend that did it for a straight month, has still kept it off without even trying. This happened about five months ago. He was very serious about it though. He did straight juice, no food, not a lot of sugary substances either.

    That reminds me... Fruit juices are awesome, they taste amazing (my favorite is the skittle drink, tastes literally like a hand full of skittles), but the natural sugars provide lots of energy that your body will use instead of burning the fat, so, the more natural sugars you put in, the less the weight loss. A lot of the skeptics out there did, or looked at a lot of juice regiments that incorporated lots of fruit juices. Fruits are good for you, but don't do you nearly as much as vegetables in most cases. Like for instance, if you think that oranges provide the most vitamin C, you're wrong, by a long shot... Red bell peppers provide more than twice as much vitamin C. Kale provides twice as much C than an orange too, plus it is a great source of vitamins A, K, and has lots of phytonutrients. If there is one thing you want to have in your juice, it's Kale. Also for those that don't like oranges, strawberries (one serving) have more vitamin C too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    Any comment on the cost of this diet? Seems like blending fresh fruit every day would get expensive?
    ehhhh depends. I mean really you don't need a ton of ingredients, many are reused for other recipes. for instance cucumber can be used in many different ones. if you go to a place like sprouts and shop the sales you can do so pretty cheaply. the issue I have is my job. its 12 hours of standing and high stress and I don't think juice would cut it all day. if I had a more laid back job or an office job id probably give it a go. cutting out carbs for a week or two works well but I wouldn't recommend it as a diet during the summer, you end up taking in more fat and heavier foods and its not good when its 90 degrees out. decent option for wanting to shed 10 lbs of winter weight though.

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