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    The problem is, to my knowledge, the police are not considered "soldiers". None the less i wish i was reading about a criminal lawsuit rather then a civil one in this incident.

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    Wow, imagine if the cops who broke an entry and grabbed her arm were shot by the homeowner, then what kind of mess would have ensued. Hopefully the systems works this one out nicely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rabid View Post
    The problem is, to my knowledge, the police are not considered "soldiers". None the less i wish i was reading about a criminal lawsuit rather then a civil one in this incident.
    There is historical precedent that the 'soldiers' mentioned in that amendment were actually performing police duties. Can't find the link now cuz I'm on my phone.


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    I didn't quite get the Police as ""military" in the story either, not like the officers didn't violate any other civil rights now did they?

    Within every demographic there is always bad apples/those that go beyond their powers or duties / violate a law that make the rest in their fellow demographic look bad. Dont take this article or thread as "Cop" bashing. I have many friends/acquaintances that are in law enforcement and they're good people.

    I judge people by their actions first....................... and these officers in the article need to never wear a badge again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skully View Post
    I didn't quite get the Police as ""military" in the story either, not like the officers didn't violate any other civil rights now did they?

    Within every demographic there is always bad apples/those that go beyond their powers or duties / violate a law that make the rest in their fellow demographic look bad. Dont take this article or thread as "Cop" bashing. I have many friends/acquaintances that are in law enforcement and they're good people.

    I judge people by their actions first....................... and these officers in the article need to never wear a badge again.
    Spirit of the Law. They are paramilitary trained government representatives. It may not meet the exact letter of the 3rd, but it definitely meets the spirit. It would easily be argued that the term "military" refers to any military or paramilitary agency either state or federally controlled. The lawsuit also pointed to the 4th and 14th which both looked clearly violated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SA Friday View Post
    Spirit of the Law. They are paramilitary trained government representatives. It may not meet the exact letter of the 3rd, but it definitely meets the spirit. It would easily be argued that the term "military" refers to any military or paramilitary agency either state or federally controlled. The lawsuit also pointed to the 4th and 14th which both looked clearly violated.
    I guess I am rusty in my categories, city police would be Civil Servants. I guess my understanding are not clear anymore.

    I was being sacarstic about the "not like the officers didn't violate any other civil rights now did they?" there was just so much "wrong" about the whole thing the fact it spans 3 people and 2 houses is just like right there. Reminds me of that video of the searching in Boston where they entered that house and made everyone walk up the street. Wonder how many years that is going to take to end up in court?
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    On the bright side I usually say that the third amendment does not seem to be relevant any more..... Um..... Gonna rethink that after seeing this story.
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    Soooo, who/how important was the person that they were scouting out? Did they even ever proceed with that part, or was messing with this family enough of a distraction for them.
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