Wasted 100 rounds chasing my zero.. somebitch...

[Great-Kazoo]

I have seen numerous factory rifles with loose barrelnuts from the factory. As a matter of fact yesterday a gent was absolutely incensed that I suggested we check it as part of an accuracy issue on his new Les Baer rifle that is a top shelf item.
Just because you paid big bucks for the rifle doesn't mean it wasn't assembled by a $8.00 per hour knucklehead.

From Mt Olympus himself.

How true, New and "Tier 1" doesn't mean it's perfect. A lot of folks would be surprised how common under-torqued bbl nuts are. Not saying they need to be cheater bar tightened to 85 ft lbs either.

Remember. Cardboard's Maintenance Free.............................................. ...........Till it rains.

[cofi]

Not a big fan of lmt I having seen one built in the last few years that would run steel case......

[colorider]

I am sure that many lmt do not shoot steel cased ammo. They have a tighter chamber then most and that causes the steel to stick and not cycle properly. Also the more popular steel cased ammo such as Tula and Wolf is underpowered causing the sticking to be worse in an lmt. I have talked to several well known and reputable gunsmiths in town and on this site about it. One comment was that you would not put coleman camp fuel in a ferrari, why would you run steel in an LMT. The other said that the chamber could be reamed to shoot steel, but why would you want to do that.
All I can say is that I have never had a cycling problem in my lmt using any brass ammo. And that is with a barrel that was extremely loose.

[cofi]

I am sure that many lmt do not shoot steel cased ammo. They have a tighter chamber then most and that causes the steel to stick and not cycle properly. Also the more popular steel cased ammo such as Tula and Wolf is underpowered causing the sticking to be worse in an lmt. I have talked to several well known and reputable gunsmiths in town and on this site about it. One comment was that you would not put coleman camp fuel in a ferrari, why would you run steel in an LMT. The other said that the chamber could be reamed to shoot steel, but why would you want to do that.
All I can say is that I have never had a cycling problem in my lmt using any brass ammo. And that is with a barrel that was extremely loose.

didn't want to turn this into another another steel vs brass thread

[Bailey Guns]

How true, New and "Tier 1" doesn't mean it's perfect. A lot of folks would be surprised how common under-torqued bbl nuts are. Not saying they need to be cheater bar tightened to 85 ft lbs either.

I don't know how they are now, but Bushmaster barrels at one time were put on so tight it was damn near impossible to remove them without damaging the receiver. And gas key screws almost always needed to be removed, degreased and staked on. For a while every BM rifle I got into the shop had a loose gas key.

[BPTactical]

I don't know how they are now, but Bushmaster barrels at one time were put on so tight it was damn near impossible to remove them without damaging the receiver. And gas key screws almost always needed to be removed, degreased and staked on. For a while every BM rifle I got into the shop had a loose gas key.

Yup, Bushy for a while did not seem to understand what "properly staked" meant when it came to gas key screws.
Of course you can have the other end of the spectrum too, you don't know what fun is until you try to take off a barrelnut that was red Loctited on by a local firm(that is no longer around) that claimed to be "experts" on the AR platform and also claimed to build top tier rifles.
Lots of Loctite as a matter of fact.

[Bailey Guns]

Well...if a little Loctite's good, a lot must be better!

[colorider]

Yup, Bushy for a while did not seem to understand what "properly staked" meant when it came to gas key screws.
Of course you can have the other end of the spectrum too, you don't know what fun is until you try to take off a barrelnut that was red Loctited on by a local firm(that is no longer around) that claimed to be "experts" on the AR platform and also claimed to build top tier rifles.
Lots of Loctite as a matter of fact.

Oh shit , you mean I wasn't supposed to use a generous amount of red ?!?!?!?
J/k. I used 3 plops of blue. And torqued to 80#. It ain't moving.

[RMAC757]

Not a big fan of lmt I having seen one built in the last few years that would run steel case......

My Knights won't eat steel. I wouldn't even try it. As previously mentioned....it wasn't built to.

[RMAC757]

On a side note....how did you like the Browe?