Watching Zimmerman.......but meanwhile in the middle east

[SA Friday]

I thought the EMP scenario like in One Second After would take a ridiculous number of nukes in LEO to achieve the same effect. Or are you talking about a single nuke taking out some geostationary satellites?

One in the right place (outside the atmosphere) would take out 1/3 to 1/2 the country. We no longer make industrial size transformers and these would most definitely blow from the strike. Last I read, 6 months minimum to replace them.

Three in the right places and the country, most of Canada, and some of Mexico are done...

Ultimately, nobody really knows for sure except for some obscure information from an "accident" that occurred in Russia back in the 80's (or was it the 70s). Most of that info is under lock and key in Russia.

[KestrelBike]

I'm going to get some 3-gallon water jugs tomorrow for the basement.

[HoneyBadger]

I thought the EMP scenario like in One Second After would take a ridiculous number of nukes in LEO to achieve the same effect. Or are you talking about a single nuke taking out some geostationary satellites?

Nope. As SA Friday said, one in LEO would send about 1/3 to 1/2 of the continental US back to the 1800s. if a nuke went off in orbit our geo satellites would be the last thing we'd worry about... 60% of all satellites would be instantly turned into space junk, and none of the rest would be able to communicate for a while because of something called scintillation.

[Boadie30]

I don't worry about that... Can't tell you why.

I worry about a freighter off the coast shooting a missile into our outer atmosphere and EMPing us back to the stone ages. Can't tell you why on that one either, but the relationship between North korea and Iran has been in the news in the past.

Agreed...

[sroz]

So, unnamed US officials told CNN who felt the need to report it. Our politicians, USG "officials" & media are our worst enemies. We just cannot keep our mouths shut.

[<MADDOG>]

You guys are better than Google news....I try to keep my eye on "foreign" media sources to get a sense of what is truly going on.

RT reports it was a cruise missile from a sub:

http://rt.com/news/israeli-submarine...ike-syria-081/

[Mick-Boy]

I developed a serious disgust for the American media when I was working in Israel. Flipping through the US news channels and the international channels it became really obvious that we spend literally all of our time focused on completely inconsequential nonsense and ignore events that actually have international implications.

[Zundfolge]

I don't worry about that... Can't tell you why.

I worry about a freighter off the coast shooting a missile into our outer atmosphere and EMPing us back to the stone ages. Can't tell you why on that one either, but the relationship between North korea and Iran has been in the news in the past.

Ironically EMPing us back wouldn't take us back to the stone ages, just to the 1950s ... which might end up being just the thing we need to roll back the surveillance/police state and restoring liberty.

Look at how many pages are posted on the Zimmerman thread and ask yourself that question again. The "News" reports what we want to hear.....not need to hear.

This makes sense to me on a gun forum. You do realize that had Zimmerman been convicted, his conviction would be the first shot and rallying cry for the movement to roll back CCW, Castle Doctrine and Stand your Ground laws. As for society in general, your point stands ... too much attention is paid to great spectacle and fury with little substance.

[battle_sight_zero]

Ironically EMPing us back wouldn't take us back to the stone ages, just to the 1950s ... which might end up being just the thing we need to roll back the surveillance/police state and restoring liberty.


This makes sense to me on a gun forum. You do realize that had Zimmerman been convicted, his conviction would be the first shot and rallying cryfor the movement to roll back CCW, Castle Doctrine and Stand your Ground laws. As for society in general, your point stands ... too much attention is paid to great spectacle and fury with little substance.

Agreed the Zimmerman trial was huge for CCW and the 2nd. My thoughts while one thing is happening and all eyes are elsewhere it seems that these potentiality huge events arise and they dont get the attention they deserve. If Obamas team informed CNN that Israel was responsible that is huge and should be a major story. That is throwing our allies to the wolves but also brings the middle east to a flashpoint. Quite frankly I was never an end times person but there is so much happening that one cant keep track of anything.

[HoneyBadger]

Ironically EMPing us back wouldn't take us back to the stone ages, just to the 1950s ... which might end up being just the thing we need to roll back the surveillance/police state and restoring liberty.

Well, now that you posted that on the internet, you can expect the NSA/FBI/BATFE/DHS/Aunt Janet etc, to be knocking on your door tomorrow to declare you mentally unstable and unfit to own firearms..