Watching Zimmerman.......but meanwhile in the middle east

[Zundfolge]

I don't worry about that... Can't tell you why.

I worry about a freighter off the coast shooting a missile into our outer atmosphere and EMPing us back to the stone ages. Can't tell you why on that one either, but the relationship between North korea and Iran has been in the news in the past.

Ironically EMPing us back wouldn't take us back to the stone ages, just to the 1950s ... which might end up being just the thing we need to roll back the surveillance/police state and restoring liberty.

Look at how many pages are posted on the Zimmerman thread and ask yourself that question again. The "News" reports what we want to hear.....not need to hear.

This makes sense to me on a gun forum. You do realize that had Zimmerman been convicted, his conviction would be the first shot and rallying cry for the movement to roll back CCW, Castle Doctrine and Stand your Ground laws. As for society in general, your point stands ... too much attention is paid to great spectacle and fury with little substance.

[battle_sight_zero]

Ironically EMPing us back wouldn't take us back to the stone ages, just to the 1950s ... which might end up being just the thing we need to roll back the surveillance/police state and restoring liberty.


This makes sense to me on a gun forum. You do realize that had Zimmerman been convicted, his conviction would be the first shot and rallying cryfor the movement to roll back CCW, Castle Doctrine and Stand your Ground laws. As for society in general, your point stands ... too much attention is paid to great spectacle and fury with little substance.

Agreed the Zimmerman trial was huge for CCW and the 2nd. My thoughts while one thing is happening and all eyes are elsewhere it seems that these potentiality huge events arise and they dont get the attention they deserve. If Obamas team informed CNN that Israel was responsible that is huge and should be a major story. That is throwing our allies to the wolves but also brings the middle east to a flashpoint. Quite frankly I was never an end times person but there is so much happening that one cant keep track of anything.

[HoneyBadger]

Also Z, If (and only if) the ENTIRE continental US was EMP'd, I would argue that it would take us back further than the 1950s. Probably closer to the 1930s in some regards, and back into the 1800s in others. The whole power grid, distribution of food, fuel and other resources, as well as nearly all communication would be down for months, if not a year or more. All of our manufacturing uses technology that would go "POOF!" in an EMP. We would be starting a lot of things from scratch.

If it was just one part of the continental US, then we would be mostly back up and running withing a few months, but things would be awfully ugly in the meantime.

[KestrelBike]

Also Z, If (and only if) the ENTIRE continental US was EMP'd, I would argue that it would take us back further than the 1950s. Probably closer to the 1930s in some regards, and back into the 1800s in others. The whole power grid, distribution of food, fuel and other resources, as well as nearly all communication would be down for months, if not a year or more. All of our manufacturing uses technology that would go "POOF!" in an EMP. We would be starting a lot of things from scratch.

If it was just one part of the continental US, then we would be mostly back up and running withing a few months, but things would be awfully ugly in the meantime.

Just havin fun here (no need for such tight tin-foil hats): I wonder about the implication of our current circuitry turning to shit. Is Asia (aka China) the only place where we can get the parts that actually break in an EMP event? I can totally see us being put back into the 1950's (best case scenario according to you) and then China looking at their now-solid, undisputed #1 position and saying "Ummmm no thanks, no deal" and not giving us any hardware, especially because all we give them now is debt, right?

ETA: I tried to find *anything* about the Israeli attack on the missiles on FoxNews, CNN, etc and can't find anything. Just RT (look at AlJaz and stopped there).

[<MADDOG>]

... and then China looking at their now-solid, undisputed #1 position and saying "Ummmm no thanks, no deal" and not giving us any hardware, especially because all we give them now is debt, right?
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As long as the US is the leading economy, and the fiat currency holder; China and everyone goes down with us. China and others know this, that's why there are quite a few "I'll take your currency if you take mine" swaps going on under our radar. China. Russia, Australia, Brazil, etc..

Unfortunately, WE own most of our debt ($85B a month Fed buyouts), not China...

[Zundfolge]

Well, now that you posted that on the internet, you can expect the NSA/FBI/BATFE/DHS/Aunt Janet etc, to be knocking on your door tomorrow to declare you mentally unstable and unfit to own firearms..

Aunt Janet quit so that's one less ... but honestly if I'm not already on a dozen lists I must be doing something wrong

Also Z, If (and only if) the ENTIRE continental US was EMP'd, I would argue that it would take us back further than the 1950s. Probably closer to the 1930s in some regards, and back into the 1800s in others. The whole power grid, distribution of food, fuel and other resources, as well as nearly all communication would be down for months, if not a year or more. All of our manufacturing uses technology that would go "POOF!" in an EMP. We would be starting a lot of things from scratch.

If it was just one part of the continental US, then we would be mostly back up and running withing a few months, but things would be awfully ugly in the meantime.

I still contend that the effects of EMP weapons are grossly over stated. An EMP weapon (especially a single weapon) is not going to turn America into the world depicted in Dark Angel and certainly not Revolution. I did a bit of research on this when I bought my Jeep ('70 CJ5) as I wanted to make it into an EMP proof survivor vehicle and basically all I have to do is not be driving it directly under the blast zone at the instant the EMP weapon goes off ... and if I do, just replace the points, condenser and maybe battery and I'll be fine.

Anyway, I don't want to hijack this thread with EMP discussion. But here's one little article on the subject.

[SideShow Bob]

Aunt Janet quit so that's one less ... but honestly if I'm not already on a dozen lists I must be doing something wrong



I still contend that the effects of EMP weapons are grossly over stated. An EMP weapon (especially a single weapon) is not going to turn America into the world depicted in Dark Angel and certainly not Revolution. I did a bit of research on this when I bought my Jeep ('70 CJ5) as I wanted to make it into an EMP proof survivor vehicle and basically all I have to do is not be driving it directly under the blast zone at the instant the EMP weapon goes off ... and if I do, just replace the points, condenser and maybe battery and I'll be fine.

Anyway, I don't want to hijack this thread with EMP discussion. But here's one little article on the subject.

Don't forget the diode pack in the voltage rectifier circuit in the alternator..........

[KestrelBike]

Agreed the Zimmerman trial was huge for CCW and the 2nd. My thoughts while one thing is happening and all eyes are elsewhere it seems that these potentiality huge events arise and they dont get the attention they deserve. If Obamas team informed CNN that Israel was responsible that is huge and should be a major story. That is throwing our allies to the wolves but also brings the middle east to a flashpoint. Quite frankly I was never an end times person but there is so much happening that one cant keep track of anything.

I see what you're saying and definitely don't deny it. But (and this isn't sarcasm) why did obummer-administration leak the Israeli info to CNN on purpose? It's obvious why they would leak details of the Seal raid to kill OBL: so they could look like The Good Guys to puff up their reelection campaign. But what could they stand to gain by throwing israel under the bus like this?

[battle_sight_zero]

I see what you're saying and definitely don't deny it. But (and this isn't sarcasm) why did obummer-administration leak the Israeli info to CNN on purpose? It's obvious why they would leak details of the Seal raid to kill OBL: so thei y could look like The Good Guys to puff up their reelection campaign. But what could they stand to gain by throwing israel under the bus like this?

I wish I knew.....however everything these days is part of a master plan. Do this while doing this.

[HoneyBadger]

Ironically EMPing us back wouldn't take us back to the stone ages, just to the 1950s ... which might end up being just the thing we need to roll back the surveillance/police state and restoring liberty.

Well, now that you posted that on the internet, you can expect the NSA/FBI/BATFE/DHS/Aunt Janet etc, to be knocking on your door tomorrow to declare you mentally unstable and unfit to own firearms..