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    Quote Originally Posted by Rooskibar03 View Post
    I'm no expert (but I did stay in a holiday in express last night) but from what I gather from farming relatives is they have bass socially become the monopoly in the growing business.

    They developed seed that will only grow when treated with their own special blend of fertilizer and big spray. They drove all the other seed makers into the ground and now if you want to grow all your products have to come from them, and they continue to raise prices.

    The last hold out crop was wheat (I think) which up until a few months ago they had not be able to modify. Now that they have cracked that code they basically own everything that is planted that becomes our food.

    I saw a list of the products and brands that come from them and its a lot of household names on there. There is an awful lot of control of the nations food supply behind handled by one major corporation. .

    Jesus! Who ISN'T on that list? And that's probably just the food related companies. Talk about having Americans by the short hairs.....
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    I love me some GMOs but Monsanto is evil. Evil in the sense that they spend Billions of dollars on bullshit legal cases and drive anyone that doesn't bow down to them into bankruptcy. They just lost a fairly important SCOTUS case but even then it was only by the skin of their teeth and it only applies to just a small collective of folks actually named in the suit.

    When you read their legal briefs you will want to tear your eyes out and scream.
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    Back in the late '70s Monsanto was trying to find a way for farmers to be able to grow more wheat per square foot. Their issues was that wheat would grow, let's say, 10 stalks per square foot. They wanted many more, let's say 50. They contracted with one of the ag colleges to try and make this happen. This was before genetic modification was possible, but the college was able to do it through selective breeding. The issue they found with this new type of wheat was that the gluten in it was increased by the power of eight (not G x 8, but G x G x G x G x G x G x G x G). Monsanto decided to put out this new type of wheat anyways. Anyone wonder why Celiac disease never seemed to be a problem in the past.

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    I don't buy into the GMOs are terrible hype- considering we've been selectively breeding and planting for hundreds of years (as a species). Modified foods can be grown longer, in harsher environments, and have higher yields (in terms of volume of food they produce). But from what I hear, Monsanto's business practices and monopoly-dealings are the real reason to dislike them. Already been stated with how they handle their seeds. But there is not enough conclusive evidence to prove GMO foods are bad or good, from what I've found.
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    And I wonder just how many politicians in this country are in Monsanto's pocket......probably more like how many are NOT in their pocket. Bet that's a small club.
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    Here is a website that has some of the information on the horrors of Monsanto. http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Monsanto

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    The cost is so high because they are watered with Brawndo. It's got what plants crave.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThunderSquirrel View Post
    The cost is so high because they are watered with Brawndo. It's got what plants crave.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scogin View Post
    Here is a website that has some of the information on the horrors of Monsanto. http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Monsanto
    You were actually making a good case until you sourced Center for Media and Democracy. Do you have some sources that aren't owned by George Soros?


    See, this is my problem with the whole Monsanto and GMO issue ... there's a lot of things that sound like they make sense when you say them fast, but then I find out they're all coming from sources that see as their life's work the destruction of capitalism and western civilization ... then I have to take it all with a grain of salt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    You were actually making a good case until you sourced Center for Media and Democracy. Do you have some sources that aren't owned by George Soros?


    See, this is my problem with the whole Monsanto and GMO issue ... there's a lot of things that sound like they make sense when you say them fast, but then I find out they're all coming from sources that see as their life's work the destruction of capitalism and western civilization ... then I have to take it all with a grain of salt.
    I completely agree with the you on disliking anything having to do with Soros. I will go back and try and find the studies and reports when I first started digging into this. I was just trying to find a quick website with the condensed information and this is the first one that popped up. My apologies.

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