Ok, what's so evil about Monsanto?

[spyder]

Also, for those that don't know... Monsanto, is the major funding source for almost all of the past GMO tests that were done by "private" companies... and the companies that did it without Monsanto, all had drastic health effects on the animals they tested, go figure.

[rondog]

Kinda like some evil mega-corp from a superhero movie, only real?

[spyder]

Kinda like some evil mega-corp from a superhero movie, only real?

It would be the perfect back drop for Lex Luther....

[rondog]

That's who I was trying to think of.

[Aloha_Shooter]

I am somewhat suspicious of the increase in various allergies in the general population but the evidence on that is sketchy and could just as easily be a reaction to our modern hyper-sterilized society. I'm not weighing in for or against anything or anyone because of videos on the Internet. There are also videos saying fracking is evil, we blew up the Twin Towers ourselves and other tin-foil hat fantasies.

At the end of the day, as much as I dislike some of their legal theories, the only thing I need to know is that the same people pushing anthropogenic global warming, Bush is Evil but Obama is Good, fracking causes cancer/makes water catch fire, and gun control is a rationale reasonable way to protect the children are the same idiots protesting Monsanto and GMOs. Some capitalists have certainly done bad things but I have to worry that the people who favor state control of the economy/health services/education/etc. are the same ones who've chosen to direct their fire against a particular conglomerate.

[Bailey Guns]

OK...I'll admit it. I don't hate Monsanto. I haven't looked into this at all. Right or wrong, I don't really care at this point. I have other, more pressing issues to worry about over whether or not Monsanto is evil.

[jhood001]

At the end of the day, as much as I dislike some of their legal theories, the only thing I need to know is that the same people pushing anthropogenic global warming, Bush is Evil but Obama is Good, fracking causes cancer/makes water catch fire, and gun control is a rationale reasonable way to protect the children are the same idiots protesting Monsanto and GMOs. Some capitalists have certainly done bad things but I have to worry that the people who favor state control of the economy/health services/education/etc. are the same ones who've chosen to direct their fire against a particular conglomerate.

I hear ya. It is hard to trust our 'enemy' when they warn of us of much of anything... Even if they may be right.

Anyway, don't worry yourself with attacks on Monsanto being a motive of people who are for the state. Monsanto is as much ingrained in our state as Blackwater, Xe, or whatever else they want to be called these days. They run a business and our government supports them 100%. So much so that they have the State Department acting on their behalf for their overseas interests.

Whether that is good or bad is up to you to decide.

[Zundfolge]

At the end of the day, as much as I dislike some of their legal theories, the only thing I need to know is that the same people pushing anthropogenic global warming, Bush is Evil but Obama is Good, fracking causes cancer/makes water catch fire, and gun control is a rationale reasonable way to protect the children are the same idiots protesting Monsanto and GMOs. Some capitalists have certainly done bad things but I have to worry that the people who favor state control of the economy/health services/education/etc. are the same ones who've chosen to direct their fire against a particular conglomerate.

This is why I started this thread. I hear all these evil things that Monsanto is responsible for, but I don't hear these from reputable sources and that makes me suspicious ... I was hoping someone could provide me with something more definitive.

Thing is the institutional left has done some pretty evil things in the name of "protecting the people" and "protecting the environment" (the millions of malaria deaths after the ban on DDT which was based on a lie called "Silent Spring" is a perfect example) and on the one hand Monsanto may be evil, or they may be benign but self interested (which is still evil in the eyes of the left) or maybe they are the key to saving millions in the third world from famine ... thing is I don't know and in this day and age of hyper-leftist-politicized science and journalism I just want to know the truth.

[10mm-man]

Other than my dislike for brawndo, My real concerned is cross-pollination, as has already been stated above.

This is the case especially with their single generation, self terminating strains. What happens if these cross pollinate into a neighboring farm? If they are not sued to bankruptcy, they will slowly start losing the ability to do selective seeding on their crops, since they will become more sterile every generation. Or, (doomsday tin-foil hat theory ahead) what if the genetic mutation makes its way out to other plant species? Far fetched, I know.

Not to far fetched; I watched a special on corn (GMO) and how the corn industry leaders manipulate it to grow in different climates. They have vaults of seeds, for just in case! I think it is on Netflix or on Amazon; it's a documentary or short film like "Food inc" or "the one were the guy juices". Anyway they had a special corn strain down 10 stories underground, they had to keep it isolated or they said if it got out it would kill all the corn plants around and be the dominate strain.

[asmo]

Monsanto sueing farmers for cross pollination is a myth. In fact they will pay to remove any gmo crops where they don't belong.

A quick Lexis-Nexis search proves you very very wrong.

What they do is file a TRO on you, then get an injunction forcing you not to sell your crops until they can be tested (and only THEY are allowed to test - lest thier secrets get out) - so your crops rot. The injunction also says you can't replant until the testing is done - so your screwed for the next year as well. Effectivly bankrupting anyone who wants to challenge them.

They do lots heavy handed tactics and they have a whole metric fuck ton of case law that let's 'em do it.