NAGR spends more than every gun group combined on lobbying

[RMGOdirector]

You've pretty well managed to get the majority of the population here annoyed with you.

There are HOW many users on this forum, and 10 bellyaching?

Perhaps it's past time to step down Dudley. Let someone else take the reins and see if they can't fix what you broke. I'm sure lots of people here would love your salary.

Don't know who you are (sorry, I've never met "Monky") so can't say whether you could do my job. Please, list your qualifications to build and lead a group. Love to see that.

If you want RMGO to get rid of me, talk to RMGO's chairman. I'm sure he'd take your call. chairman@rmgo.org

But, RMGO is hiring. So, if someone here is anxious to work in politics and be paid to do it, fire off a resume.

However, it's a starting position. It's not NEARLY as small as my salary (a stipend, actually) for the first decade of RMGO's existence, but it's a starting position.

[davsel]

There are HOW many users on this forum, and 10 bellyaching?

Well, let's make it 11.
Tried it, didn't like it, stuck with the NRA.
Attitude played a major role in my decision. And when I see that attitude displayed here, it reinforces my confidence in that decision.

[Ronin13]

United we stand, divided, we fall.

Funny, the liberals have this idea all figured out... but for some reason, Dudley likes to poke the NRA/ILA and try to display them in a negative light. Instead, how about UNITING with them for a common goal? "But they haven't done this or that..." Quiet! MAN THE FUCK UP! Petty bickering and moaning about the other guy is only hurting us, not helping.

Not sure if this is just quoted from an article or authored by Dudley Brown. Either way, it seems to me anyone reporting on this should know that the NRA doesn't lobby anyone. They can't.

The NRA/ILA (Institute for Legislative Action) is the lobbying arm of the NRA. Yes, it's a technicality but an important one, especially to those who are uninformed. It seems, once again, Dudley is using a divide and conquer approach in an attempt to bad-mouth the NRA.

I, too, tend to support pretty much ANY pro-gun group. But I'm also sick of Brown's constant bashing of the NRA...even when he means the NRA/ILA. RMGO no longer gets my support for this very reason.

THIS! Same here! I was a first year member right after the noise in the aftermath of Sandy Hook, then saw what kind of vile tactics Dudley uses to bash the NRA (who I've been a member of for a long time), and sorry, heart's in the right place, but your execution fucking blows! Pardon my profanity, but for crying out loud, TFOGGER put it best: "Divided we fall"/fail.

ETA: That is why I have the RMGO Member instead of just deleting it... It's not about the money, it's about sending a message. Are you listening Dudley? Fix your org, find a way to work with other 2A groups, and I'll come back and support you 100%. Until then, Chris Cox will continue to get a nice quarterly check from me to keep fighting without putting down fellow gun groups.

[sellersm]

Funny, the liberals have this idea all figured out... but for some reason, Dudley likes to poke the NRA/ILA and try to display them in a negative light. Instead, how about UNITING with them for a common goal? "But they haven't done this or that..." Quiet! MAN THE FUCK UP! Petty bickering and moaning about the other guy is only hurting us, not helping.

^This. See post #40. "They" are EXCELLENT at this.

Dudley, I understand your point about politicians,

Respectfully, public policy isn't made by public opinion. It's made by policy makers (i.e. politicians).

However, politicians are able to do what they do because they feel they've got public opinion behind them! And lots of lobbyists & backroom deals, etc. The system's busted, for sure. We get that. Has the NRA, or any other 2A organization always been our friend? Nope. In fact, if they REALLY did their job right, they'd be out of a job after they were done, and human nature doesn't like that very much (selfish greed, sin nature of man, and all that)!!

So, fighting against a NATIONAL registry is higher priority than fighting against the 'registry' that's already taken place here in CO? If these local politicians here in CO would have been derailed & deflated, they wouldn't end up in the House/Senate in DC!!

Stop the seed from being planted & growing in the first place, and you won't have to deal with all the branches, birds and leaves of the tree later! Which is cheaper? Resources are ALWAYS finite: I vote for killing the seed.

[HBARleatherneck]

where can I read about how much Dudley and his wife made off these two organizations. How many homes do they now own? I know how to find out how many homes. But, is there somewhere that says how much Dudley takes in for himself?

[RMGOdirector]

where can I read about how much Dudley and his wife made off these two organizations. How many homes do they now own? I know how to find out how many homes. But, is there somewhere that says how much Dudley takes in for himself?

Guidestar.org lists the 990 filings for EVERY non-profit in America, including RMGO and NAGR. And we provide copies of our filings upon request.

I (and my wife) own one house (though, frankly, it's none of your damn business). My wife has put in thousands of volunteer hours for RMGO, stuffing mail and data entry, and never been paid by RMGO.

But, before I get too mad and start a fight here, I'll tell you straight up that I won't answer any questions from anonymous forum lurkers.

[HBARleatherneck]

funny, weld county assessor lists two in you and your wifes name. or are you saying a condo isnt a house? now what do you own elsewhere?

basically we know you make alot of money for yourself FEAR MONGERING and hating on every other organization. i paid you for several years, until your douchebag nature showed through.

[RMGOdirector]

Look at the thread, from the beginning. I posted an article proving what NAGR spent on lobbying Congress against gun control, and the first response is HBAR insinuating that I'm posting for money.

My personal finances are none of your business, least of all some douchebag (since this insult is apparently acceptable here) who hides behind a moniker. What RMGO pays Dudley Brown ($4000/month in salary) is public information, and I'm HAPPY to compare my salary to other execs who run similar sized organizations, or even to compare salaries based on size. The studies I've looked at (through Guidestar) show I am paid 1/3 the rate as others.

When I hear someone bitch about RMGO asking for money too often then tout the NRA, I gotta wonder what planet they are living on. But, that's the ONE area I don't disagree with the NRA on (they DO raise money -- just wish they'd spend it for the right purposes, but since I don't give them money, frankly, I've already voted with my money).

[RMGOdirector]

Whoa, whoa, Wait a second.

This user account has been used to portray posts as sourcing from Dudley Brown, but you talk about him in the third person. Your user name is also RMGOdirector. (Dudley)

We do not permit shared accounts. Much less do we support ones that purport to be sourcing from individuals they do not apparently speak for.

I will afford you the opportunity to explain yourself, prior to taking any action, and it better be without the attitude. I'm guessing this might be hoover but obviously a lot of users here understand this account to be Dudley.

Yes, I used my name instead of a pronoun, so that I was perfectly clear who I was talking about. If you doubt I (Dudley Brown) wrote this, pick up a phone and call my office (970-482-7646 -- tell them you are returning my call from the forum) or give me a number to call.

Btw, Keith Hoover no longer works here, if that's who you are referring to.

[davsel]

Guidestar.org lists the 990 filings for EVERY non-profit in America, including RMGO and NAGR. And we provide copies of our filings upon request.

I (and my wife) own one house (though, frankly, it's none of your damn business). My wife has put in thousands of volunteer hours for RMGO, stuffing mail and data entry, and never been paid by RMGO.

But, before I get too mad and start a fight here, I'll tell you straight up that I won't answer any questions from anonymous forum lurkers.

Can you provide a direct link to the RMGO 990 filings? I can't find anything for "Rocky Mountain Gun Owners" or "RMGO" on the Guidestar.org website you posted.

However, this did pop up in my search: http://www.denverpost.com/breakingne...e-irs-could-be
Interesting.