Global warming, anyone?

[68Charger]

Sea levels have risen ~10ft this year.

besides any arguing over who/what is responsible for any possible warming trend (part of a natural cycle, possibly), please back this specific statement up with FACTS

[Irving]

I don't buy that the ocean levels have risen 10 feet just this year. Every other time I've heard about ocean levels rising, the stats say 10 in in 100's of years, not one year.

Aren't all the cities in Florida under 500' in elevation? A 10' increase in sea level would wipe out places like Italy, Louisiana, and Florida.

[68Charger]

I don't buy that the ocean levels have risen 10 feet just this year. Every other time I've heard about ocean levels rising, the stats say 10 in in 100's of years, not one year.

Aren't all the cities in Florida under 500' in elevation? A 10' increase in sea level would wipe out places like Italy, Louisiana, and Florida.

My main point- he leads with some URL links, that are all based on the SAME FLAWED/SKEWED DATA, then his contribution to the post is lead with a total bullshit statement.. hard to take anyone seriously when they don't take their facts seriously...

lebru, your post is so full of fail I don't know where to begin-

seriously, at least act like you've researched it for longer than it took for you to watch "An Inconvenient Truth"

[lebru]

besides any arguing over who/what is responsible for any possible warming trend (part of a natural cycle, possibly), please back this specific statement up with FACTS

you clearly don't know anything about the process of global warming, let alone the scientific method. Allow me to make it about as easy as a coloring book to understand.

The earth has warming cycles.
We are currently in a warming cycle. There is no doubting that. (It is how nature works, it has happened throughout history as soil tests will show. Most of these are available through academic journals).
Warming cycles produce co2 trapped in permafrost, releasing it into the atmosphere.
Human factor has been proven to accelerate the natural course of the warming by several factors.
1)Massive dirty energy plants(usually in upcoming 3rd world countries, since the US generally has cleaner burning coal.
2)Less rain forest density, meaning less absorption of co2 from the atmosphere.
3) Unregulated burning of fossil fuels, without paying the costs for damaging the environment (you can't drive a car without insurance, why should you be able to burn fuel without paying for the damage its caused)

So, more co2 (from both human and natural causes) + less absorption = more warming of the earth. Hence, sea levels rising, ice shelfs melting at a far accelerated rate.


Its funny because, I don't have to do in-depth research to find evidence of it happening, and yet you can't find any evidence to prove that it isn't happening. It has already been proven, you now have to disprove it.

More evidence that Greenlands density (In case you weren't aware, Greenland is largely permafrost, and contains huge amounts of trapped co2), as well as rising ocean levels

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0323161819.htm
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0713101412.htm
http://www.agu.org/journals/ABS/2010/2010GL042460.shtml
http://www.upi.com/Science_News/Reso...8081279213064/

This image, created with sea surface height data from the Topex/Poseidon and Jason-1 satellites, shows how ocean surface heights have changed from 1993 to now.

Now, Global Warming isn't the kill all for the world. Yes it is happening, but we have already adapted to it and are already reversing the effects. The next step on the course of the earth is a magnetic polar shift, which were are long overdue for. If you actually studied science, it would make sense. But it seems like you have no background at all in Biology, let alone Atmospheric Sciences. Let me guess, you also believe the earth was created ~6000 years ago, in 4004bc, the lunar landings never happened, evolution is false, and that all muslim's are evil?

[68Charger]

no, it's VERY simple- let me take you back 3 whole posts:

Quote:
Originally Posted by lebru
Sea levels have risen ~10ft this year.

besides any arguing over who/what is responsible for any possible warming trend (part of a natural cycle, possibly), please back this specific statement up with FACTS


care to visit this question, or just want to keep trying to baffle with bullshit?

if you don't want to get past the 1st F'ing sentence in your post that was your own, I don't feel like reading past the first sentence of yours- seems fair, doesn't it?

even if you don't agree- answer it anyway... please?

The image you posted shows a MAX of 10mm/year, since 1993- so 170mm... assuming it was the same data every year (a very large assumption), that would be 6.7" in 17 years, a bit shy of your assertion of 10' THIS YEAR...

exaggerations do not even resemble truth...

[Irving]

I don't think you understand what people in this thread are saying about Global Warming lebru. This Global Warming Activism is what people think is bullshit, not the warming itself.

Trying to relate car insurance to paying a tax on using energy is a poor, poor analogy. It is not just weak, but incomparable. Can you come up with something else?

[Graves]

Global warming alarmist unleashes a bot on skeptics

Nigel Leck, an Australian software developer, grew tired of debating climate realists on Twitter so he created a spambot to “wear down” his opponents. The bot, @AI_AGW, scans Twitter every five minutes looking for key phrases commonly used by those who challenge the global warming orthodoxy. It then posts one of hundreds of canned responses hoping to frustrate skeptics. CFACT’s Twitter account @CFACT (follow us!) often receives many of these unsolicited messages each day. Since the bot became active on May 26, 2010, it has sent out over 40,000 tweets, or an average of more than 240 updates per day.

Damn, Stuart can give that damn bot a run for it's money. Possible career path Stuie?

[roberth]

See that big bright thingy in the sky during the daylight hours?

That big bright thingy is call The Sun and it heats the entire Earth as well as everything else within it's range. There's your global warming.

The best thing about people like lebru is that the rest of us are supposed to stop what we're doing. lebru and people like him are part of the elite thinkers delivering the message so they get to continue to use fossil fuels.

[funkfool]

Ok - follow me for just a moment here...
The earth warms...
the earth cools...
A cycle...
We agree so far... ?
It is as if the earth is 'breathing' so to speak...
You buy this analogy?
Yes?
So -
Trying to control the cycle..
to STOP global warming....
Now..
if we stop global warming...
we stop the cycle....
we prevent the earth from doing something...
it is naturally SUPPOSED TO DO!
If it stops cycling...
What will happen?

Now,
Humans have had an effect on the planet...
The real question is:
How much...
It is my assertation that in the 4+ billion years of earth history...
Mankind is but a blip of a speck in time AND effect.
Mankinds actions affect the atmosphere, geology and chemistry of the earth... but that only effects our furious attemt to exist upon it.

Mankind will NOT be able to stop the cyclic action of the earths' warming and cooling... (and why would we want to?)

No matter WHO gets rich off our backs.

We just don't have that much influence.

The Scientific Method

[roberth]

I agree with funkfool.

Negative human impact is very localized, I mean what percentage of property is Rocky Flats in relation to the rest of Colorado, North America, the earth as a whole?