Global warming, anyone?

[funkfool]

Holy thread resurection 68Charger!!
Didn't mean to freak you out man...
I just figure - if there is a thread already generally about what I'm gonna post... might as well keep it together...

Anyway... the lying autonomons have resorted to automation...
This is the same as shouting down your opposition because you cannot win with facts and a logical argument.

[lebru]

http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/fea...aice-melt.html

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._3294531_n.jpg

http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...of-global-warm

http://www.icr.org/article/evidence-for-global-warming/

Sea levels have risen ~10ft this year.

Global warming isn't a myth. Although the Earth does go through periodic warming periods, this particular period is being accelerated by Humans. It's a chain reaction. The snow melts, releases co2, inefficient power plants also produce co2. co2 makes the earth get warmer, thus more snow melts, thus more co2....ect ect ect. Its not a myth, its fact. Not to mention, the worlds tropical rainforest population has dropped, which was a huge absorber of co2. Mix all that together its like drinking a four loko, doing a line of coke, and chugging a 40.

The bolded is the human part of the equation that wasn't around...say...5000 years ago? Its not a scam, there is far more evidence suggesting it happens than evidence suggesting its bullshit. The only excuse people think to come up with its bullshit is because Al Gore's movie....well fuck Al Gore and the "liberal media and scientists"...even without him it would still be a relevant truth that it has happened.

[68Charger]

Sea levels have risen ~10ft this year.

besides any arguing over who/what is responsible for any possible warming trend (part of a natural cycle, possibly), please back this specific statement up with FACTS

[lebru]

besides any arguing over who/what is responsible for any possible warming trend (part of a natural cycle, possibly), please back this specific statement up with FACTS

you clearly don't know anything about the process of global warming, let alone the scientific method. Allow me to make it about as easy as a coloring book to understand.

The earth has warming cycles.
We are currently in a warming cycle. There is no doubting that. (It is how nature works, it has happened throughout history as soil tests will show. Most of these are available through academic journals).
Warming cycles produce co2 trapped in permafrost, releasing it into the atmosphere.
Human factor has been proven to accelerate the natural course of the warming by several factors.
1)Massive dirty energy plants(usually in upcoming 3rd world countries, since the US generally has cleaner burning coal.
2)Less rain forest density, meaning less absorption of co2 from the atmosphere.
3) Unregulated burning of fossil fuels, without paying the costs for damaging the environment (you can't drive a car without insurance, why should you be able to burn fuel without paying for the damage its caused)

So, more co2 (from both human and natural causes) + less absorption = more warming of the earth. Hence, sea levels rising, ice shelfs melting at a far accelerated rate.


Its funny because, I don't have to do in-depth research to find evidence of it happening, and yet you can't find any evidence to prove that it isn't happening. It has already been proven, you now have to disprove it.

More evidence that Greenlands density (In case you weren't aware, Greenland is largely permafrost, and contains huge amounts of trapped co2), as well as rising ocean levels

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0323161819.htm
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0713101412.htm
http://www.agu.org/journals/ABS/2010/2010GL042460.shtml
http://www.upi.com/Science_News/Reso...8081279213064/

This image, created with sea surface height data from the Topex/Poseidon and Jason-1 satellites, shows how ocean surface heights have changed from 1993 to now.

Now, Global Warming isn't the kill all for the world. Yes it is happening, but we have already adapted to it and are already reversing the effects. The next step on the course of the earth is a magnetic polar shift, which were are long overdue for. If you actually studied science, it would make sense. But it seems like you have no background at all in Biology, let alone Atmospheric Sciences. Let me guess, you also believe the earth was created ~6000 years ago, in 4004bc, the lunar landings never happened, evolution is false, and that all muslim's are evil?

[68Charger]

no, it's VERY simple- let me take you back 3 whole posts:

Quote:
Originally Posted by lebru
Sea levels have risen ~10ft this year.

besides any arguing over who/what is responsible for any possible warming trend (part of a natural cycle, possibly), please back this specific statement up with FACTS


care to visit this question, or just want to keep trying to baffle with bullshit?

if you don't want to get past the 1st F'ing sentence in your post that was your own, I don't feel like reading past the first sentence of yours- seems fair, doesn't it?

even if you don't agree- answer it anyway... please?

The image you posted shows a MAX of 10mm/year, since 1993- so 170mm... assuming it was the same data every year (a very large assumption), that would be 6.7" in 17 years, a bit shy of your assertion of 10' THIS YEAR...

exaggerations do not even resemble truth...

[Irving]

I don't think you understand what people in this thread are saying about Global Warming lebru. This Global Warming Activism is what people think is bullshit, not the warming itself.

Trying to relate car insurance to paying a tax on using energy is a poor, poor analogy. It is not just weak, but incomparable. Can you come up with something else?

[68Charger]

you clearly don't know anything about the process of global warming, let alone the scientific method. Allow me to make it about as easy as a coloring book to understand.

I'll give your post a 6/10 as an inflammatory bot response- I found it more amusing than inflammatory... not enough guilt for my lavish western lifestyle- but the personal attacks on intelligence and religion were a nice touch... without those, it would have scored a 4

[funkfool]

Fact: They can't even say with certainty whether or not it will rain tomorrow so how the hell do they know what will happen in a 100 years from now?

+1.0E+18

As you can see, my confusion on whether to buy sun screen or long johns..

Be prepared... have both!

[Irving]

I don't think that lebru is quite the elitist some of you think. There is merit to the idea of Global Warming, I mean Climate Change, or whatever. I think he's just way off on his claim of ocean levels rising. Otherwise, he seems very grounded when he says things like 'Global Warming is not the end of the world.'

If all the ice in the world melted, would it even raise the ocean levels 10'? We already know that any ice that is already in water is taking up more volume than it would if it were to melt. So the only ice melt that could contribute to ocean levels is ice that is 100% on land. With the Earth being 2/3 ocean and only 1/3 land, and MOST of that 1/3 land NOT AT ALL covered in ice; I find it very hard to worry about the ocean level if all the ice were to melt.

It'd still likely be catastrophic (and a shame) if all the ice were to melt, but the ocean level would be the least of our worries.

[Marlin]

Be prepared... have both!

Yeah but, would I need to put the sunscreen on the long johns?