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    Machine Gunner muddywings's Avatar
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    Default SBR length with suppressor opinions

    Ok,
    So should have a trust set up soon so now I really need to decide what I want to do here.
    Want:
    SBR w/ suppressor for HD, SHTF, and because I want one.
    Plan:
    build it over an 18 month period starting with the SBR paperwork followed a few months later with the suppressor paperwork
    Thoughts:
    Again, this is more of a "I want one" gun, then any real need, but it will be the home defense gun. I'm leaning towards a simple screw on suppressor as I don't see me taking it on/off a lot. I don't think I want to pin it to get to 16" because I never say never.
    Reaching out and being somewhat accurate at the 200 yard range would be satisfactory for my intentions
    With that....
    Questions:
    11.5 or 12.5 barrel??
    What suppressor??

    I'm leaning towards an 11.5 for compact size and don't want to go lower than that but to be honest, I don't know if adding in inch will drastically improve performance while loosing some in the house maneuverability.
    I'm leaning towards a YHM Phantom (looking at Silent Precision website) for cost reasons and because I don't really feel I need to go overboard with it (at this time...haha)
    I really don't want to long of a can keeping the CQB concept in mind.
    Anybody out there give this noob some advice before he fills out his form in a few weeks for barrel length?
    (I'm buying a house at the end of the month so I don't expect to be sending in the paperwork until early september.)
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    Home defense? Are you going with a 300 BLK round to keep things subsonic?

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    11.5
    this is a 11.5. currently running a AAC 18T A1 style f/hider and (not pictured) M4-2K suppressor.
    My suggestion with NFA approval time running 11 months, EASY, submit BOTH at the same time. It's $200 more than your budget might allow however 11 months!! Elephants gestation period is shorter

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    Default SBR length with suppressor opinions

    If you're building it.. Go 300blk.

    220g sub loads w/ a suppressor all you hear is the bolt slap.

    I've got 5 stamps waiting currently.

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    You're not going to see too much difference between an 11.5 and a 12.5 when it comes to maneuverability in a house. Both barrels should easily be able to make hits out to 200.

    If you want, I'll give you a shout when I get home in a couple of weeks and we can hit the range so you can mess around with a 11.5 with a Gemtech Trek (thread on) and a 10.5 with a SF 556.212 (QD).
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    11.5 and a halo...
    You sir, are a specialist in the art of discovering a welcoming outcome of a particular situation....not a mechanic.

    My feedback add 11-12 ish before the great servpocaylpse of 2012

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    10.5" and phantom is what I am going with. Already sent paperwork. I bought a 10.5" noveske upper, and a yhm B/A phantom. I actually put the brake and suppressor on the upper today, and I personally don't feel that the phantom is too heavy. I plan on doing a 12" spikes bar rail on the 10.5" upper. To me it just looks cool. Most supressor manufactures won't guarantee their supressor under 10.5". Surefire guarantees theirs at 7.5" if I'm not mistaken. Yankee hill is a very good buy for the money IMHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DFBrews View Post
    11.5 and a halo...

    Got one. 1 more 223 can should do it
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    I think you will be happy. I currently run a YHM QD can on an 11in upper. It is a smidge shorter than my 16in upper with the hinder on it. I also feel the YHM can is a good product for the money. Now for the wait! Check out Colorado Gun Writes for the sbr ingraving. He did a great job on mine.
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    Thanks all,
    O2-yeah, went through the thought process on a 300 BLK, but want to keep the ammo similar for my prepper mentality and I haven't gotten into reloading yet. Maybe down the road some day.

    Jim-wouldn't you need the suppressor prior to sending the paperwork in? If not, then yeah, I'll probably push both at the same time. But if I do, it will break my $200/month spend plan and I'll have to wait a few months and follow behind.

    Mick-yeah, might take you up on that. i've got plenty of time and other things on my plate. It's a long term build/plan so I'm in no rush.

    DF and Neutron-thanks for the input.

    Other build specs are:
    AXTS Weapons lower (have it)
    WMD BCG (have it)
    BADASS 45 degree selector (have it)
    Raptor CH (Have it)
    The rest is just on my dream sheet:
    VLTOR MUR1 upper
    VTAC Alpha Rail not sure what length. edit: actually I might go with a Rainier Arms Evolution as it looks like it would fit over the can per their specs.
    BCM 11.5 barrel (for no other reason than I like their 16" Middy I have)
    Magpul this, magpul that
    Trigger I'm waffelly on- maybe an ALG ACT or a Giessele G2S (I have an SSA on my other and would like the trigger pull to be similar across the board...I guess)
    Move my Aimpoint M2 to this gun from my other and upgrade that so I can shoot Tac limited vs Limited with the aimpoint
    Suppressor....still looking into that.
    Last edited by muddywings; 08-02-2013 at 10:14. Reason: added the rail to my buy list
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