Framing the gun control message

[Ronin13]

Yep, the left is winning because they have better PR then we do. They are masters of it.

Personally, I think it is time to go on the offensive. Logic and reason will not work with these people. They loose if decisions are based on facts and logic. This is why everything is a "feeling" with them.
I say, buy a copy of Saul Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals" and use the same tactics against them. One of the primary weapons is ridicule. Another is make them live up to their own standards.
All these anti-gunners live in gated communities protected by security guards and have a very low police response time. What a bunch of wimps hiding in their protected enclaves. And they are also a bunch of hypocrites. Most of them are protected by armed security guards. Didn't Ghandi say "be the change you want to see in the world"? Well, if they want to live in a gun free world, they should live a gun free life shouldn't they?

It is time to get mean. The republican party is done for because they are too nice and don't fight back.
And this applies to many topics, not just guns.

My rant for the afternoon.

There's a monologue from Alfonzo Rachel in one of his videos where he discusses this. I understand your frustration, but to paraphrase Zo and his point (which has inspired me to try and be better about this, despite my past feelings on addressing this debate), it is far better to attack your enemy from an elevated position. Sure we could stoop to their level and sling mud like they do, but they're far more experienced in this type of fighting that we are- they've been doing it a lot longer. Their dirty tactics can be equated to what happened with the insurgency in Iraq- they fight outside the limits of the formal rules of war and Geneva Conventions, they fight dirty, they fight ugly, and that's not what we are, we're better than that. So it may seem like a good idea to fight dirty like they do, but in the end we only sell ourselves out, and take away what it means to be conservative. The whole thing boils down to conservative vs liberal- by definition. If we stop being conservative we become that which we fight against... and thus we lose either way.

[Mick-Boy]

"Do you still beat your wife?"

Debates are often won or lost in how the discussion is framed... Of course that's assuming the other party is interested in having an honest debate. Most liberals aren't.