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    Republicans certainly vote Republican. No question about that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    Republicans certainly vote Republican. No question about that.
    Or, they don't vote. That's what happened last time. Like they're really gonna teach somebody a lesson by staying home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    Republicans certainly vote Republican. No question about that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    Or, they don't vote. That's what happened last time. Like they're really gonna teach somebody a lesson by staying home.

    Correct. The Staunch Conservative R's stayed home, because they felt Romney was not Conservative enough.
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    I agree with Z. It's probably not necessary to win over the entire unaffiliated group...you just have to win a little more of them than the dems do. That's probably enough. The bottom line is, if the republicans can get a large turnout of the republican base they'll probably win this year. It's the best chance they've had in a long time.
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    The problem of the Republican party is one of perception: Stuffy old white men that want to control the people's morality. Beauprez is not going to do anything to change that perception with younger voters, women, or minorities. Kopp might have a chance to win over some of the younger voters, and Brophy certainly would have, but Tancredo certainly isn't winning any friends with minorities...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TFOGGER View Post
    The problem of the Republican party is one of perception: Stuffy old white men that want to control the people's morality.
    And the problem with perception is that its controlled by the so-called Mainstream Media who are basically a wing of the Democrat party, so it doesn't matter if we run an old white man or a wheel chair bound, bisexual, Latino, Buddhist, cross-dresser the MSM will STILL spin the perception against them.

    This is why its so important that Republicans energize their base, and then reach out to conservative & libertarian leaning unaffiliated folk, but don't try to fall for the trap of reaching out to leftists (both those that admit they're leftists and those that call themselves "moderate independents") Because those people won't be fooled, they'll vote for the "real Democrat" instead of the "Democrat-Lite with an R after their name" and at the same time the Republican base (along with conservative & libertarian leaning unaffiliated folk) will stay home (just like the last two presidential elections).

    If this "reach out to the middle" crap worked we'd all be bitching about what President McCain or President Romney was doing (or not doing).
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    I challenge the idea that most independents vote "D". It's certainly a convenient myth to propagate (for the liberals and mass media) because many people are herd-followers and will go the way they think the majority is even if that's a self-fulfilling prophecy.

    Newsflash for roberth: probably half of us involved in recalling Morse were/are independents. The vast majority of independents voting in the recall election voted to oust Morse and Giron. There are a ton of unaffiliated voters who are disaffected conservatives. The big trick is getting those disaffected conservatives to show up at the polls so we can get the hard core liberals out of office and start returning the country back to a more moderate position. We can get back to the 10th Amendment once we've done that but we'll never get to restoring Constitutional balance as long as we keep letting people like Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Hickenlooper, etc. in office.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aloha_Shooter View Post
    I challenge the idea that most independents vote "D". It's certainly a convenient myth to propagate (for the liberals and mass media) because many people are herd-followers and will go the way they think the majority is even if that's a self-fulfilling prophecy.

    Newsflash for roberth: probably half of us involved in recalling Morse were/are independents. The vast majority of independents voting in the recall election voted to oust Morse and Giron. There are a ton of unaffiliated voters who are disaffected conservatives. The big trick is getting those disaffected conservatives to show up at the polls so we can get the hard core liberals out of office and start returning the country back to a more moderate position. We can get back to the 10th Amendment once we've done that but we'll never get to restoring Constitutional balance as long as we keep letting people like Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Hickenlooper, etc. in office.
    I'm just going on my own experience and when I hear the people who claim to be "independent" on various talk shows turn they out to be liberals.

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    I can't speak for all, but I do know the vast majority of my family voted for Romney while holding their nose. There were a few who didn't, mostly my female cousins who voted for their one particular issue and that being reproductive rights and health and naturally, Obama got their vote for that.

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    I label myself as being "unaffiliated". At heart I am Republican and vote that way until they start shoving their gay and abortion crap out there. At that point it's over for me. Morals have nothing to do with denigrating and subjugating an entire group of people in fact it is quite the opposite. Living a moral life has to do with treating fellow humans with dignity and respect. I don't need a book or a politician to tell me how to live and honest life, make an honest wage and treat others with respect. Everyone else I know that doesn't associate themselves with a specific party feels pretty much the same way. In this country everyone should be treated equally, yes that includes those horrible fornicating gays. Government can get off my lawn and out of my personal life. Both parties need to stick to running the country from a business and national defense perspective.

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