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    Romney endorsed Beauprez ...
    doubles our changes of losing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wyome View Post
    Romney endorsed Beauprez ...
    doubles our changes of losing?
    Of course he did. The Establishment GOP is taking over the race and they'll put whatever unoffensive, limp-dick, PC pansy they can find in the race.

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    Some of you guys need to ask yourselves who you'd rather see as governor...Hickenlooper or the eventual republican candidate (even if it's Beauprez)?

    Hickenlooper is a strong candidate and he's gonna be tough to beat. The republican candidate, regardless of who it is, is going to need every republican vote in the state to beat Hickenlooper. So you can either whine about "choice of evils" or "I don't like the republican candidate because he isn't perfect" or "abortion" or whatever and "vote your conscience" and get Hickenlooper elected or you can vote for the republican candidate. It's that simple whether you like it or not.

    Because don't forget...your "choice of evils" is also going to include Hickenlooper.

    And with a very good chance of winning the house and senate in the state this year, we can either put Hickenlooper back in office or come together and vote for the alternative. Of course, if you "vote your conscience" and vote for a libertarian candidate or whomever, you'll have the luxury of bitching about Hickenlooper for another 4 years.
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    I must be the only one who hasn't resigned myself to the fact Beauprez is going to be the republican candidate. I'm still hoping for, and supporting, Kopp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    Frankly I think it's republican/conservative voters that can't come together. They always want the perfect candidate and it's never gonna happen. Liberals and democrats rally around a single candidate (once it's down to a single person) and that's who they vote for without all the pissing and moaning about single issues. They get out and vote for the D candidate. I wish republicans would do that instead of bitching about why their candidate isn't perfect.
    The issue in Colorado is winning over the Independents.. When you look at the break up of voters in Colorado and who they support neither the registered Reps nor the registered Dems can do it by themselves. Your candidate has to have appeal outside the party and it's a lot more than just supporting them just because they are the chosen one.

    I like Kopp personally, I think he will have way more appeal to the indys plus the fact that he has little to no baggage.

    That said.. Romney has now endorsed Beauprez.. The Reps can kiss this one goodbye.

    Colorado voter registration: Both sides need to tap that 35% slice of the pie.. Hicky is going to do a better job at it than Beauprez that's for sure..

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    What's Bob breupreys politics? Is he lap dog like Hickenlooper or pro freedom like nobody in 200 years?
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    Quote Originally Posted by def90 View Post
    The issue in Colorado is winning over the Independents.. When you look at the break up of voters in Colorado and who they support neither the registered Reps nor the registered Dems can do it by themselves. Your candidate has to have appeal outside the party and it's a lot more than just supporting them just because they are the chosen one.

    I like Kopp personally, I think he will have way more appeal to the indys plus the fact that he has little to no baggage.

    That said.. Romney has now endorsed Beauprez.. The Reps can kiss this one goodbye.

    Colorado voter registration: Both sides need to tap that 35% slice of the pie.. Hicky is going to do a better job at it than Beauprez that's for sure..

    I don't necessarily disagree. And I think it reinforces my position that republicans will need every single republican vote possible to win. Because the dems are going to get virtually all of their dem votes and a good portion of the unaffiliated votes.
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    Why did Greg Brophy quit the race?
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    Quote Originally Posted by def90 View Post
    The issue in Colorado is winning over the Independents.

    The problem with this "OMG WE GOTS TO WIN TEH INDEPENDENTS!" notion is that despite the fact that in that pie chart they're all together in one segment and all the same color, "The Independents" or the "Unaffiliated" voters are not a monolithic group that agrees on everything (or even anything). And they're not just the "mushy moderate middle ground" between Republican (conservative) and Democrat (liberal).

    "The Independents" are everything from anarcho-capitalist libertarians to Marxists and all sorts of weirdos and freaks that believe things like Reptilian Joos rule the world via the Illumaniti and Walmart and that doesn't count the large segment of "independents" that have zero interest in politics and don't/won't vote.

    There is no way to appeal to all "independents" (or for that matter even most). Focus on unifying your base and you win.
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