thanks tsa :(

[funkymonkey1111]

Even their site exempts butter knives http://www.tsa.gov/traveler-informat...ohibited-items. No law is broken until you get on the plane so they can not seize your property for a crime you have not committed.

No law is broken until you get on the plane? Where the heck are you getting that? You mean to tell me all the times people tried to bring guns through a security checkpoint the TSA waits until they get on the plane?

Further, note that on the "butter knife" exemption the TSA states "Even if an item is generally permitted, it may be subject to additional screening or not allowed through the checkpoint if it triggers an alarm during the screening process, appears to have been tampered with, or poses other security concerns. The final decision rests with TSA on whether to allow any items on the plane." "Poses other security concerns" just about gives them carte blanche to prohibit what they want, even if their website says otherwise, all in the name of "safety."

Look, I don't agree with the TSA here at all--i'm just saying once there's a determination of a weapon (which is what Cofi said) you're not getting that thing back.

[Rabid]

No law is broken until you get on the plane? Where the heck are you getting that? You mean to tell me all the times people tried to bring guns through a security checkpoint the TSA waits until they get on the plane?

Further, note that on the "butter knife" exemption the TSA states "Even if an item is generally permitted, it may be subject to additional screening or not allowed through the checkpoint if it triggers an alarm during the screening process, appears to have been tampered with, or poses other security concerns. The final decision rests with TSA on whether to allow any items on the plane." "Poses other security concerns" just about gives them carte blanche to prohibit what they want, even if their website says otherwise, all in the name of "safety."

Look, I don't agree with the TSA here at all--i'm just saying once there's a determination of a weapon (which is what Cofi said) you're not getting that thing back.

Show me where it says you can not have a butter knife in an airport. Also i had the option to mail one of those multi-tools that looks like a key back to my self when i forgot it was on my key chain.

[mtnrider]

Even their site exempts butter knives http://www.tsa.gov/traveler-informat...ohibited-items.

I was curious what there definition of butter knife was. This i s what I could find "A permitted round bladed butter knife has no serrated edges." They should probably clarify that in that link.

Personally I would have never tried to walk on a plane with that silverware. I know what the outcome would be.

[Bailey Guns]

No law is broken until you get on the plane so they can not seize your property for a crime you have not committed.

That's just flat out wrong. Exempting butter knives or not, there are plenty of items that would be illegal to bring into the secure area of the airport or even up to the security checkpoint. Wandering around the unsecured side of the terminal? That's a different story.

ETA: Just saw your last post. Either way, you don't have to get on the plane to be breaking the law as you asserted in the quote.

[Boadie30]

Which airport??

[cofi]

Which airport??

Newark

im betting she didnt get anyones badge number is there any other way i can look up the incident? they basically stole our shit

edit: she told me they wouldnt give her the form because it was considered weapons and if it had been a snow globe or something she could have filled out a form and had them mailed to her and that she couldnt put it in her checked luggage because once your through the security you cant go back out

[Aloha_Shooter]

On the one hand, I don't understand why your wife thought she was going to be able to transport them by hand and didn't just use FEDEX to send them home when even first class still gets plastic cutlery (on those few flights that still serve hot meals). On the other hand, TSA should have given her the option to get them back and NOT go through the security line. It would have been worth the cost of changing her ticket so she had the time to ship them home. I'd have asked to talk to a manager and get names and employee numbers so she could file a report with the TSA IG on what essentially was theft of antique heirlooms.

[cofi]

On the one hand, I don't understand why your wife thought she was going to be able to transport them by hand and didn't just use FEDEX to send them home when even first class still gets plastic cutlery (on those few flights that still serve hot meals). On the other hand, TSA should have given her the option to get them back and NOT go through the security line. It would have been worth the cost of changing her ticket so she had the time to ship them home. I'd have asked to talk to a manager and get names and employee numbers so she could file a report with the TSA IG on what essentially was theft of antique heirlooms.

why would we pay to send it home(and risk losing it that way) when she can just bring the shit with her?

[Great-Kazoo]

why would we pay to send it home(and risk losing it that way) when she can just bring the shit with her?

Not to sure about NewArk. But in the rest of the country, they have this thing called INSURANCE to add on to any package sent of value.

[Aloha_Shooter]

You'd pay to send it home because you CAN'T take metal forks and knives with you on the plane -- but them claiming they were weapons to prevent her from reclaiming them is BS. Problem here is she has no documentation anymore and I'm sure the fsckers will claim they threw it out. If this happened recently, she MAY be able to get a supervisor to check security tapes but she needs to call immediately. I'd contact both the local head of TSA in Newark AND the IG (and make sure Newark knows you're complaining to the IG). Better yet, since her family is presumably local to Newark, have her father go pitch a fit to them in person -- much harder for them to ignore irate taxpayer loudly proclaiming "theft" in person than Jane Q. Public calling over a phone, especially if it just so happens the local news is present and filming while he's making his complaints. ;-)