Quote Originally Posted by tmleadr03 View Post
I would disagree, the actual problem in flat rate. Worst system ever.
Yeah I've had my fill of flat rate. I'm still on it now, only because there isn't a lot of good options out there. What originally started out with perhaps the best of intentions, has turned into a tool, no a crutch for poorly managed shops to overstaff to the gills, and when a car comes in it becomes a feeding frenzy. Seems to be really common in the chain stores with elevated pay rates to sucker you in. I once was in the $34/hr range, but with 4-5 guys in a shop you did good to make 20hrs a week being legit. The chumps that cranked out work of questionable quality were spoon fed jobs, while the guys who cared were stuck cleaning up the other guy's messes. I did have an ex-employer try to steal me back with more pay, no weekends and return of vacation time. I added... and 40hrs a week guaranteed, to which no response yet.