BGC while at gun shows

[BlasterBob]

Never did hear what the charges are for two individuals wanting to make the required BGC to sell/trade with each other while at one of the local gun shows.. Not asking for what the dealers charge for a BGC to cover one of the firearms being sold/transferred off their table - only what would be charged for two non-FFL guys to get the check to comply with the new law while at the show. In the past, Tanner and the Sertoma organizers used to have someone dedicated to take care of these and the charge was exactly $10. What'll be charged now since there is no more work involved to accomplish this. Called the Sertoma folks and they had no idea what the current charge is. Anyone know or even care?

[mtnrider]

I thought it was written into the law they are not suppossed to charge more then $10 (+ the $10 to CBI)?

[BlasterBob]

I thought it was written into the law they are not suppossed to charge more then $10 (+ the $10 to CBI)?

So you believe a total of $20. You are one of the only ones to furnish an opinion on the fee. I had asked this a couple times and no one has ever responded. Now, I hope your correct with that $20 charge. I have not attended a gun show in many months so one of these days, I'll have to "test the waters" on the BGC when it applies to two individuals wanting to make such a transfer while attending a gun show. Should be interesting to say the least.

[crays]

I would think $20 per party, for a total of $40, since they are essentially doing 2 BGC's.

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[BlasterBob]

I would think $20 per party, for a total of $40, since they are essentially doing 2 BGC's.

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Why two (2) BGC's? Are you saying the seller of the firearm is required to have a BGC also? Never heard of this with the exception of the buyer NOT passing his BGC so the firearm would then have to be returned to the seller after his BGC is passed. What a mess our "know it all" legislators forced upon us.

[Circuits]

It's $20 per required background check - $10 to CBI, $10 to the FFL. So a trade requires two BGCs and would run $40 total. A simple private party sale would be $20.

[R&S]

This can be a real pain, if party A sells to party B and party B doesn't pass the BGC the party A has to do a BGC to get their firearm back. If party A doesn't pass then the FFL doing the paperwork has to keep the firearm and treat it as a consignment for party A. There are other stipulations (as least for me) if the firearm becomes a consignment.

[Circuits]

This can be a real pain, if party A sells to party B and party B doesn't pass the BGC the party A has to do a BGC to get their firearm back. If party A doesn't pass then the FFL doing the paperwork has to keep the firearm and treat it as a consignment for party A. There are other stipulations (as least for me) if the firearm becomes a consignment.

No. If party A doesn't leave the firearm in the the FFL's custody, and party B doesn't pass the BGC, then party A and their firearm can go off on their merry way.

However, yes - if party A leaves the firearm in the FFL's custody, and party B doesn't pass the BGC, then party A would indeed have to do a BGC to get their firearm back, etc.

[R&S]

I guess we can agree to disagree

[BlasterBob]

This can be a real pain, if party A sells to party B and party B doesn't pass the BGC the party A has to do a BGC to get their firearm back. If party A doesn't pass then the FFL doing the paperwork has to keep the firearm and treat it as a consignment for party A. There are other stipulations (as least for me) if the firearm becomes a consignment.

From what I read and understand, if the potential buyer does not pass the BGC and the firearm has NOT been relinquished to the FFL, then the FFL can hand the firearm back to the seller without having to execute another BGC. This is, I believe, covered in the latest BATF guide covering such scenarios. If the firearm IS relinquished to the FFL, he enters it into his book and then if potential buyer fails the BGC, then a BGC must be secured for the seller for him to get his own firearm returned on the spot providing he does NOT want the FFL to keep it for a consignment sale.
I believe this crap is well covered in the latest BATF instructions for FFL's. If an FFL does not want to handle it this way, it is strictly his prerogative to handle it the way he chooses and is comfortable with. This is just my humble opinion and I am sure as hell not an attorney or know much about the new requirements -- just stating the way I interpret them.