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    Quote Originally Posted by Blockhead View Post
    The CBI requirement is for buying firearms in Colorado, not Colorado residents buying guns elsewhere.
    The previous post said (per the ATF) the the State must comply with the State of residence laws. Our State law requires a CBI check so how does Wyoming (or any State for that matter) comply with that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnrider View Post
    The previous post said (per the ATF) the the State must comply with the State of residence laws. Our State law requires a CBI check so how does Wyoming (or any State for that matter) comply with that?
    They don't . Wyoming and their FFLs are not subject to Colorado laws. When buying a firearm in Wyoming you have to be in compliance with their laws, not the laws of your home state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnrider View Post
    The previous post said (per the ATF) the the State must comply with the State of residence laws. Our State law requires a CBI check so how does Wyoming (or any State for that matter) comply with that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blockhead View Post
    They don't . Wyoming and their FFLs are not subject to Colorado laws. When buying a firearm in Wyoming you have to be in compliance with their laws, not the laws of your home state.
    So this statement by Bailyguns is incorrect?

    The ATF states long guns can be bought by a person in any state as long as the sale complies with the laws of the state where the purchase is being made and the state of residence of the buyer. CO does not restrict out of state sales for CO residents. This may be a store policy, it may even by WY law, but it has nothing to do with the ATF.

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    Default Wyoming dealers can't sell to CO residents?

    I have purchased long guns from dealers in other states. (Prior to July 1st)

    You just fill out the 4473 as usual, they run it through the national system, and off you go with your rifle. No big deal.

    A buddy of mine even bought a handgun out of state. Paid for it and they shipped it to his on-state FFL where he did the paperwork and picked it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ray1970 View Post
    I have purchased long guns from dealers in other states. (Prior to July 1st)

    You just fill out the 4473 as usual, they run it through the national system, and off you go with your rifle. No big deal.
    I guess I would have to read the new BCG law and see what it says. It's clear as mud I am sure. Not sure if they specified "State" BCG or run through the State vs. just a NCIC check (which does not necessarily include State records).

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    Some of you guys really make this a lot more complicated than it is.

    I'm telling you...unless it is specifically contrary to WY law there is no CO law or federal statute that would prohibit a CO resident from purchasing a long gun, over the counter, from a licensed FFL.

    Believe what you want or heard on the internet, but them's the facts. But don't take my word for it...I just got it from the ATF website using my secret access that no one else in the world has.

    Q: From whom may an unlicensed person acquire a firearm under the GCA?

    A person may only acquire a firearm within the person’s own State, except that he or she may purchase or otherwise acquire a rifle or shotgun, in person, at a licensee’s premises in any State, provided the sale complies with State laws applicable in the State of sale and the State where the purchaser resides. A person may borrow or rent a firearm in any State for temporary use for lawful sporting purposes.
    [18 U.S.C. 922(a)(3) and (5), 922(b)(3), 27 CFR 478.29 and 478.30]
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    Default Re: Wyoming dealers can't sell to CO residents?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    Some of you guys really make this a lot more complicated than it is.

    I'm telling you...unless it is specifically contrary to WY law there is no CO law or federal statute that would prohibit a CO resident from purchasing a long gun, over the counter, from a licensed FFL.

    Believe what you want or heard on the internet, but them's the facts. But don't take my word for it...I just got it from the ATF website using my secret access that no one else in the world has.

    Q: From whom may an unlicensed person acquire a firearm under the GCA?

    A person may only acquire a firearm within the person’s own State, except that he or she may purchase or otherwise acquire a rifle or shotgun, in person, at a licensee’s premises in any State, provided the sale complies with State laws applicable in the State of sale and the State where the purchaser resides. A person may borrow or rent a firearm in any State for temporary use for lawful sporting purposes.
    [18 U.S.C. 922(a)(3) and (5), 922(b)(3), 27 CFR 478.29 and 478.30]
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnrider View Post
    So this statement by Bailyguns is incorrect?
    Federal law says you can buy a long gun in a state other than your residence. Wyoming FFLs do NOT have access to CBI. Therefore, CBI has nothing to do with a Colorado resident buying a gun in their state.

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    For those that are Google challenged:
    12-27-102. Legislative declaration - residents
    (1) It is declared by the general assembly that it is lawful for a resident of this state, otherwise qualified, to purchase or receive delivery of a rifle or shotgun in a state contiguous to this state, subject to the following restrictions and requirements:

    (a) The sale must fully comply with the legal conditions of sale in both such contiguous states;

    (b) The purchaser and the licensee must have complied, prior to the sale or delivery for sale of the rifle or shotgun, with all of the requirements of section 922 (c) of the federal "Gun Control Act of 1968", applicable to interstate transactions other than at the licensee's business premises.

    Notice is says a resident may purchase a long gun in states contiguous to CO. It doesn't say a CO resident CAN'T purchase in a state that's NOT contiguous to CO.

    Just an FYI....WY is contiguous to CO.
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