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    Quote Originally Posted by SA Friday View Post
    Don't know where you got that idea, but it's way not true.
    How so? To my understanding, ATF is a federal LE organization that enforces federal law. My wxperience with ATF have concerned federal, not state, gun laws. I could see how they would cooperate with state authorities on matters cases where both state and federal law comes into question, but I can't think of an example of ATF getting involved in purely a state matter. If I'm totally wrong, I'm wiling to learn.
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    Walmart in Laramie started doing this pre-July 1, but told me it was a store policy. Another shop in town said they were selling long guns as per federal law to CO residents until July 1, then, after that, removing magazines over 15 rounds from the sale, when selling rifles to Colorado residents, as a store policy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blockhead View Post
    How so? To my understanding, ATF is a federal LE organization that enforces federal law. My wxperience with ATF have concerned federal, not state, gun laws. I could see how they would cooperate with state authorities on matters cases where both state and federal law comes into question, but I can't think of an example of ATF getting involved in purely a state matter. If I'm totally wrong, I'm wiling to learn.
    When a firearm is stolen, the ATF is involved, same for other things which the average john / jane doe is usually not aware of. UNLESS it's high profile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jim View Post
    When a firearm is stolen, the ATF is involved, same for other things which the average john / jane doe is usually not aware of. UNLESS it's high profile.
    My point exactly Possessing a stolen firearm is a federal crime.

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    Updated with pic, references ATF, but not an official publication b

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    It's been a while but when I was in the business, it basically was that you had to abide by the person's state of residency's laws. Being that CO requires BGC be through CBI, that could mean that a dealer in another state couldn't sell to residents of that state without access to the CBI BGC.

    IDK if this is why and it is strictly speculation from my own thoughts and memories from 7 or so years ago, but might be a possible explanation, it's the only one I can think of that makes any sense at all.

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    The ATF has no such rule specifically for WY. The ATF states long guns can be bought by a person in any state as long as the sale complies with the laws of the state where the purchase is being made and the state of residence of the buyer. CO does not restrict out of state sales for CO residents. This may be a store policy, it may even by WY law, but it has nothing to do with the ATF.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    The ATF states long guns can be bought by a person in any state as long as the sale complies with the laws of the state where the purchase is being made and the state of residence of the buyer. CO does not restrict out of state sales for CO residents. This may be a store policy, it may even by WY law, but it has nothing to do with the ATF.
    Wouldn't that statement prevent a Colorado resident from buying a (over the counter) firearm in any state? Since Colorado requires a BCG through CBI no other state would be able to comply with that correct?

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    Maybe grounds for a different lawsuit/challenge to the bill?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnrider View Post
    Wouldn't that statement prevent a Colorado resident from buying a (over the counter) firearm in any state? Since Colorado requires a BCG through CBI no other state would be able to comply with that correct?
    The CBI requirement is for buying firearms in Colorado, not Colorado residents buying guns elsewhere.

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