WWII Vet beaten to death by Obamas other two sons

[Gman]

What I don't understand, well, I guess I do, is why the media glosses over stories like this.

Because it doesn't fit the agenda.

...but I'm guessing you already understood that.

[RMAC757]

Poor abused young men that come from broken homes and have had to survive in a racist world.

What I don't understand, well, I guess I do, is why the media glosses over stories like this.

Glossed over? Seriously ? I've seen it on every major news network.

[RMAC757]

This is what I was telling a good friend of mine the other day. Incididents like this are getting rather frequent and not getting any serious media coverage. It's almost as if they're promoting killing "whitey" with their lack of interest/coverage. They condone open season on us, but God forbid we fight back. I will not be a statistic if in my power to prevent. The media along with Sharpton & Jackson have driven this country back 100 years in regard to race relations. I have a feeling it's going to get far worse before it gets better. Like Robb said, be careful, keep your head on a swivel and carry everywhere you go.

Who are we? I thought we were all Americans? As far as your second comment. The only people I know of that listen to Sharpton or Jackson are people who like to get pissed off at something and then use it as a way of spouting garbage. "Set us back 100 years"? I don't think so. This country wasn't such a great place for everyone 100 years ago. Johnson beating Jeffries in the ring touched off racial violence throughout the entire country and that was just one of the mass riots. As I've stated previously, no one has a monopoly on racial violence in this country. The racism that exists now was here long before the WWII Vet got killed or the Zimmerman case. There's a lot of passive aggressive people on this board ( I wonder who? ) that use any racial conflict as a conduit to voice their own distorted beliefs. Preying upon people is bad. Hurting people is bad. Who gives a shit what the color of the offender or victim is, it's no less wrong. When the Neo Nazi attacked the Sikh temple it sure as hell didn't create a 30 page thread.

[hatidua]

Who gives a shit what the color of the offender or victim is

Humans do. Humans have. Humans will continue to.

[RMAC757]

Humans do. Humans have. Humans will continue to.

Then Humans will continue to deal with fallout from those thought processes and that is unfortunate. I also don't buy any of that "We're all a little racist" bullshit. That's not true at all. Racism is learned behavior. It's a choice....and a poor one at that. Preying on the weak is cowardly regardless of color.

[hatidua]

Then Humans will continue to deal with fallout from those thought processes and that is unfortunate.

"Unfortunate" has never precluded something from existing nor hastened it's demise.

It is possible to simultaneously dream and hope for a post-racial world while acknowledging that it does not exist at this point in time. However, people naturally segregate, be it by language/dialect/occupation/economic level/nationality/race/ethnicity/skin tone/Etc. While it's certainly possible to hope for a time/place in which that does not occur, it's not going to happen in my lifetime, this century, or this millennia. Humans are part of the animal kingdom and although there are places where the species intermixes more fluently than others (for a host of reasons), the reality is that even within nearly 100% homogenous societies, there are hierarchies based on a selection process, some of which may not be palatable to you - but it's reality, ugly as it may be.

Preying on the weak may not be a wholesome virtue, but it's why the USA doesn't have Navajo as the national language, it's how the pyramids got built, and it's the reason most nations on planet earth are ruled by who they are ruled by.

You don't have to personally accept the notion that the strong take advantage of the weak. You can outright abhor that practice and proclaim the ills it has wrought on society as a whole. But it is reality and it is not going anywhere anytime soon.

[RMAC757]

"Unfortunate" has never precluded something from existing nor hastened it's demise.

It is possible to simultaneously dream and hope for a post-racial world while acknowledging that it does not exist at this point in time. However, people naturally segregate, be it by language/dialect/occupation/economic level/nationality/race/ethnicity/skin tone/Etc. While it's certainly possible to hope for a time/place in which that does not occur, it's not going to happen in my lifetime, this century, or this millennia. Humans are part of the animal kingdom and although there are places where the species intermixes more fluently than others (for a host of reasons), the reality is that even within nearly 100% homogenous societies, there are hierarchies based on a selection process, some of which may not be palatable to you - but it's reality, ugly as it may be.

Preying on the weak may not be a wholesome virtue, but it's why the USA doesn't have Navajo as the national language, it's how the pyramids got built, and it's the reason most nations on planet earth are ruled by who they are ruled by.

You don't have to personally accept the notion that the strong take advantage of the weak. You can outright abhor that practice and proclaim the ills it has wrought on society as a whole. But it is reality and it is not going anywhere anytime soon.

"Unfortunate" usually does not precluded behaviour...consequence however does. A lot, if not most of your statement is subjective. Saying people "Naturally segregate" is a great example. People have a tendency to gravitate towards that which is comfortable ( i.e. this forum ). But I disagree that people naturally separate. Kids are the best example of this. Without being a weirdo, observe the way small kids interact and get along. That interaction is natural. Kids start seperating as differences are pointed out. This is learned behavior. Compare segregation of people now compared to 50 years ago. It's light years different which instantly exposes a flaw in your ideology of separation being natural. It's not uncommon at all for people of different religions, races, tribes...whatever to marry and have kids. 50 years ago.....not so much. Gradually, certain learned behaviors that were passed down from one generation to the next are being replaced with more enlightened ones. As far as "preying on the weak", I was referring to the WWII veteran or any other victim of crime... not nation building.

[rockhound]

Poor abused young men that come from broken homes and have had to survive in a racist world.

What I don't understand, well, I guess I do, is why the media glosses over stories like this.

I have seen the story in several places, i think what gets ignored is the racial overtones of the crime. the white victim just never plays the race card, if it had been two white kids beating up an old balck man it would have been a hate crime.

[mtnhack]

I have seen the story in several places, i think what gets ignored is the racial overtones of the crime. the white victim just never plays the race card, if it had been two white kids beating up an old balck man it would have been a hate crime.

Agreed. ^^

The "hate crime" designation should be dropped. A crime is a crime.