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    Anybody have any recommendations for good books/info about keto? I'd like to know more, seems like there's a lot of different info swirling around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rondog View Post
    Anybody have any recommendations for good books/info about keto? I'd like to know more, seems like there's a lot of different info swirling around.
    People seem to either like Karl Denninger or think he's a pompous ass, but I found these three posts of his helpful:
    Survey View on the Theory
    https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?singlepost=3289664
    Macro View on the Theory
    https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?singlepost=3405842
    Micro View on the Theory (specifically named foods)
    https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?singlepost=3406845

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    Non-Denninger:

    Post on veggies:
    https://www.ruled.me/best-low-carb-v...etogenic-diet/

    Foods in general:
    https://ketodietapp.com/Blog/post/20...-Eat-and-Avoid

    Pizza recipes!:
    https://www.ketoconnect.net/recipe/keto-pizza/

    Basic rules I've been following w/ success:

    If it once had blood in it or came from something with blood in it = good, except milk (cheese is fine, but not in huge quantities)
    If it once grew in the ground and was not processed (i.e., wheat, barley, etc.) it may = good, unless it is a potato or rice

    The key thing to understand is it's not about denial so much as what's good for you. Many things which are prima facie tasty and fun, are literally awful for you and killing you.

    The denial aspect sets boundaries, but you can play around within that framework to experiment what works best for you all you want.

    Chesterton touched on these realities and how to understand limitation in his book Orthodoxy:

    To desire action is to desire limitation. In that sense every act is an act of self-sacrifice. When you choose anything, you reject everything else…Every act is an irrevocable selection and exclusion. Just as when you marry one woman you give up all the others, so when you take one course of action you give up all the other courses…It is the existence of this negative or limiting side of will that makes most of the talk of the anarchic will-worshippers little better than nonsense.

    Anarchism adjures us to be bold creative artists, and care for no laws or limits. But it is impossible to be an artist and not care for laws and limits. Art is limitation; the essence of every picture is the frame. If you draw a giraffe, you must draw him with a long neck. If, in your bold, creative way, you hold yourself free to draw a giraffee with a short neck, you will really find that you are not free to draw a giraffe. The moment you step into the world of facts, you step into a world of limits. You can free things from alien or accidental laws, but not from the laws of their own nature.

    You may, if you like, free a tiger from his bars; but do not free him from his stripes. Do not free a camel of the burden of his hump: you may be freeing him from being a camel. Do not go about as a demagogue, encouraging triangles to break out of the prison of their three sides. If a triangle breaks out of its three sides, its life comes to a lamentable end. Somebody wrote a work called “The Loves of the Triangles”; I never read it, but I am sure that if triangles ever were loved, they were loved for being triangular. This is certainly the case with all artistic creation, which in some ways is the most decisive example of pure will. The artist loves his limitations: they constitute the thing he is doing. The painter is glad that the canvas is flat. The sculptor is glad that the clay is colourless.
    Just like adherence to truth, morality, etc. require a rejection of certain things which are "fun", particularly in excessive quantities, so too does adherence to a healthy lifestyle require rejection of the overwhelming amount of sugar disguised as "food", be it a candy bar or "healthy" things like bread and rice.

    It's not about rejection of the bad per se, so much as embracing the good. The embracing simply demands a rejection of certain things antithetical to the objective which demands action.

    Apologies if this got too highfalutin...
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    Tim Ferriss is a big Keto supporter. If I remember correctly, his 4 Hour Chef book centers around meals that support that diet. I have not read it, but it's sitting on the shelf at home and is next on the list. I'll report back upon completion of it, unless someone else has read it before and can speak to it's usefulness.

    Good to see so many focused on getting / being / staying healthy. I too have had my ups and downs with diet and exercise and recently got fed up with my current position and decided to make some changes. It's amazing how much better you feel when you're not carrying around the extra pounds.

    As for exercise, if you're not a runner and want to be, I found the Ease 2 5K and Ease 2 10k apps by Bluefin Software to be a great program to follow. I use MapMyFitness by Underarmor as well to look for recommended routes in the area when I'm on the road. Admittedly, I'm starting over cause I let it slide that much, but when I was focused on the diet and exercise, I used the 5k app to get to the 10k level and then would repeat the 5k app in between 10k days to train a higher pace and it worked wonders. At that time, I was dieting very well and running almost every day. That in conjunction with a weight routine and I felt like a million bucks, and will again.

    As a sidenote, I'm happy to see this thread. There are far too many people that focus on, practice this particular course of fire drill, or practice this hand to hand technique, etc. but couldn't last 5 seconds in a fight. People outside the gun world think it's just a bunch of "fat guys in cargo pants" and unfortunately quite often they're right. We've allowed this to happen and should be seeking to correct that image. This industry needs a serious facelift, and it's not gonna come from the next "This is how you jump out of a flaming helicopter" YouTube video.

    I'm proud to read the stories of personal improvement people have posted in here. I look forward to seeing you at an event on the Front Range and to hear your success stories.

    Keep at it!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CavSct1983 View Post
    People seem to either like Karl Denninger or think he's a pompous ass, but I found these three posts of his helpful:
    Survey View on the Theory
    https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?singlepost=3289664
    Macro View on the Theory
    https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?singlepost=3405842
    Micro View on the Theory (specifically named foods)
    https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?singlepost=3406845

    -----
    Non-Denninger:

    Post on veggies:
    https://www.ruled.me/best-low-carb-v...etogenic-diet/

    Foods in general:
    https://ketodietapp.com/Blog/post/20...-Eat-and-Avoid

    Pizza recipes!:
    https://www.ketoconnect.net/recipe/keto-pizza/

    Basic rules I've been following w/ success:

    If it once had blood in it or came from something with blood in it = good, except milk (cheese is fine, but not in huge quantities)
    If it once grew in the ground and was not processed (i.e., wheat, barley, etc.) it may = good, unless it is a potato or rice

    The key thing to understand is it's not about denial so much as what's good for you. Many things which are prima facie tasty and fun, are literally awful for you and killing you.

    The denial aspect sets boundaries, but you can play around within that framework to experiment what works best for you all you want.

    Chesterton touched on these realities and how to understand limitation in his book Orthodoxy:



    Just like adherence to truth, morality, etc. require a rejection of certain things which are "fun", particularly in excessive quantities, so too does adherence to a healthy lifestyle require rejection of the overwhelming amount of sugar disguised as "food", be it a candy bar or "healthy" things like bread and rice.

    It's not about rejection of the bad per se, so much as embracing the good. The embracing simply demands a rejection of certain things antithetical to the objective which demands action.

    Apologies if this got too highfalutin...
    Excellent, thank you!!!
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    This is my first week on a Keto lifestyle. Wife is supportive and trying recipes with me. Like several of you, I'm tired of the extra weight. I'm eating sensibly and spending time at the gym. I'm amazed how long a spoon of coconut oil will hold me over.

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    cauliflower "rice" recipe:
    http://www.momseveryday.com/content/...utherncolorado

    Paired w/ Keto tortilla:
    https://ketodietapp.com/Blog/post/20...-Shells-Nachos

    Cheese, meats, sour cream, guac, etc...

    and buddy, you've got some keto style Mexican food!
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    I've now tried coffee with heavy whipping cream and stevia, and it is great. I am limiting myself to 1 cup per week, usually at church during fellowship time before service.

    If anyone is doing keto and wants a soda replacement, the Zevia brand of sodas is pretty good. My wife used to get them on occasion, but they are 0 sugar, 0 carbs, and taste pretty good.



    Quote Originally Posted by CavSct1983 View Post
    cauliflower "rice" recipe:
    http://www.momseveryday.com/content/...utherncolorado

    Paired w/ Keto tortilla:
    https://ketodietapp.com/Blog/post/20...-Shells-Nachos

    Cheese, meats, sour cream, guac, etc...

    and buddy, you've got some keto style Mexican food!
    Yeah, I know what I am trying. I miss Qdoba rice, and that sounds like it's probably pretty close. Thanks for the links.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frac View Post
    This is my first week on a Keto lifestyle. Wife is supportive and trying recipes with me. Like several of you, I'm tired of the extra weight. I'm eating sensibly and spending time at the gym. I'm amazed how long a spoon of coconut oil will hold me over.
    Coconut oil is great for that, and so are Avocado's.
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    I'm not crazy about avocados, but I may try them again for variety. I'm drinking my coffee black. I'm used to black coffee when I hunt, so it isn't much of a stretch.

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    Excellent thread, I'm getting started myself. Need to drop at least 20-lbs..

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